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NHL
Nov. 30, 2023 at 12:50 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #2: Early Overreactions
Goalie updates:
It looks like several teams are scrapping their tandems and moving towards a 1A/1B or a Starter/Backup situation:
<strong>Buffalo</strong> - with Levi now in the AHL; it is UPL time as the 1A for the Sabres; putting Comrie in the 1B role; which is the best arrangement based on all of their play this season to date. If the blueline can get settled down in front of them and the injury bug to stop hitting the Sabres could string together a good stretch here. I would expect a minimum 2/3 split for UPL/Comrie going forward with Comrie drawing Nashville 12/3, Montreal 12/9, Arizona 12/16, and 12/30 vs Columbus and UPL getting the rest.
<strong>Washington </strong>- Lindgren's start vs LA Kings seems to have shown that the Capitals prefer him in the net during the tougher matchup (they have 2nd half of B2B today against Anaheim. They have 3 games in the next 5 days then a 2 day break followed by 3 games in 4 days so you'll see both tenders get some action. The NY Rangers game on 12/9 will be the next real "tell": as it would rotate to Kuemper under an "every other game" pattern; but that is clearly a marquee matchup that is the 1st half of a B2B with Chicago being the 2nd half. If Lindgren gets that start then it is clear he has moved into the top part of the tandem.
<strong>Toronto </strong>- Woll is expected to start tonight, marking 3rd straight for him. Samsonov's last start was a B2B game against Chicago. It appears the Leafs are moving towards a 1A/1B with Woll getting 2 out of 3 games generally. This Saturday they play Boston and I would bank on Woll getting that one too because they have 4 days off after that. Samsonov can expect his next start to be 12/11 against NYIslanders; unless that 16-day break in action is deemed too much and they want him in against Ottawa on 12/7; but that would mean resting Woll for 6 days right when he seems to be settling in.
<strong>LA Kings</strong> Talbot continues to move into "workhorse" realm and I would only expect Copley to start on the "lesser" of any B2B games; 12/9 vs NYI;12/19 vs SJS; and 12/27 vs SJS thru the end of this year. That still doesn't leave a very heavy workload and plenty of multiple days of rest in there for Talbot so I wouldn't worry about burnout at this point in their season.
<strong>Anaheim </strong>- Their once highly functioning tandem with Gibson-Dostal has fallen apart. They gave the net to Gibby after Dostal hit a rough patch now both of them are struggling. This has probably more to say about the young defense and lack of scoring in front of them with the rest of the league having better scouting on the new HC's system and the players and regression setting in. Of course the trade rumors will swirl again around Gibson if the Ducks drop out of the playoff picture; but his play lately hasn't inspired demand either. Dostal looked better with more rubber and now that he is sitting for long stretches; one wonders if they should swap him and Stalock.
<strong>Tampa Bay</strong> - Vasy is back and he will be busy. With 5 games in 8 nights; Johansson will probably get the B2B matchup against Nashville on 12/7 and the New Years' Eve one against Montreal; there should be a relief day in there against Calgary on 12/16 since it is the tail end of a long road trip for the Bolts; and the rest should go to the workhorse (health allowing).
<strong>Edmonton </strong>- After tonights matchup with Winnipeg, they get a 5 day break they then have 6 games in 11 nights (at home), followed by a 2 day break then 3 games in 4 nights (including a B2B); they will need at least 2 of those starts to go to a backup (12/2 vs Chicago and 12/21-22 B2B vs NJD/NYR). The 5 day break would be a great time to work in a new tender if they are serious about a trade this early (and I think they should be). The biggest reason I can see for them needing to do this earlier than later is that the Oilers schedule post All-Star game is really intensive; so if they wait until then to acquire said goaltender they will be throwing them into the fire rather than easing them in to their systems; not to mention that they can't afford to "give away" many points in the standings either.
<strong>Montreal </strong>- continues their Trio-Tandem with Primeau going tonight; which means Allen vs Detroit on 12/2 and Montembeault on 12/4 vs Sea, wash, rinse, repeat (until a trade occurs).
<strong>Detroit </strong>- the other last remaining "trio" has been doing more of a "hot hand" at the 1B spot with Lyon sitting the first 15 games of the year and now Reimer sitting for 2 weeks straight while Lyon gets some starts. Many are seeing Lyon's success and wondering if that pushes Husso down but he took time off for his baby to be born while the team traveled to Sweden and returned with a really good game against Boston and NY Rangers so I don't think that will happen (context matters when you see the # of games over the past few weeks). Tonight vs Chicago is the second half of a B2B so it should be Lyon. Not sure when Reimer will get back in the lineup (or be traded) unless Lyon starts struggling. I would categorize the Red Wings as having a 1A-1B/2B setup.
<strong>Minnesota </strong>- new HC will probably see some changes in net deployment; he started Gus vs StL and looks to be sticking with him tonight vs Nashville. From 12/3 thru 12/10 the Wild have 5 games in 8 nights with a B2B so we'll see how many Fleury gets in and maybe paint the picture of how they might use them going forward.
<strong>Seattle</strong> - continues to not have any pattern or logic behind their goalie selections; aside from "fingers crossed maybe someone can play good". I really do wonder why they aren't bringing up Driedger to play; at least give him a shot and if he does well run with it or create a trade market for him.
<strong>Ottawa</strong> - Not much to discuss here about rotations, just that the Senators have had goaltending worse than just about everyone except Edmonton; however the 1A/1B setup of Korpisalo/Forsberg means they keep hoping ONE of them will step up. It looked like Forsberg was going to after his Sweden game but now that he has returned to North America he quickly returned to his old ways. Korpisalo didn't fare much better; but this is really about the poor defense in front of them; so it doesn't matter who starts it is just ugly right now in Ottawa. Maybe Chabot was a bigger factor than it seemed or they need a once-great franchise defensemen to take over the defense coaching duties but Wade Redden is already in the organization and Zdeno Chara is too busy running marathons.
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NHL
Nov. 30, 2023 at 2:00 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #2: Early Overreactions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Dom's player cards are out at The Athletic. It's crazy, that guy is the biggest poser in the hockey media game, and oh my sweet lord is that saying a ton. He doesn't watch much hockey, and doesn't even approach understanding the limited hockey he does watch.</div></div>
Its a statistical model, that doesn't have any ability to grasp fluctuation of skill or development of a persons skills. its a horrible list but still fun to looks at...the fact its sorted by projection and not actual is so annoying.
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NHL
Nov. 28, 2023 at 1:16 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #2: Early Overreactions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pinslack</b></div><div>45% xG at even strength
That's a bottom tier stats, and Kane will not help with that in my book.
I still see Detroit as a middle of the pack team, and out of the playoffs</div></div>
I do think in Detroit’s case that offensive metrics will be broken.
Unlike most teams, nearly every offensive threat on the wings shoots at a high percentage - not this one momentary season, but as archetypes - they would perform this way regardless of their team; Larkin is reasonably 10%, Perron is historically roughly 15%, Lucas Raymond is similar to Perron, and DeBrincat is extremely high, where 20% isn’t unreasonable. Fabbri plays as a sniper, etc. By prioritizing the wrist shot and netfront offense, Detroit should convert much more than others, but have less chances. Rate stats driven by comparisons to league averages will be busted as they are simply too deviant from the norm. They should balloon pdo simply because most of the comparisons do not have the quality of shooter.
In combination, they skew the data going in so hard that the data coming out is … what it is. I don’t see any of these trends changing: the established players - they’re simply meeting career averages, more or less, and the younger players are multiple seasons in.
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NHL Signings
Nov. 28, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
Thread:
Detroit Red Wings signed Patrick Kane (1 Year / $2,750,000 AAV)
Is it more interesting if he's terrible or good?
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NHL Signings
Nov. 28, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
Thread:
Detroit Red Wings signed Patrick Kane (1 Year / $2,750,000 AAV)
I frankly cant understand lopsided voting on "No", 1 year prove it deal for a future HoF with plenty of winning experience. Not to mention the overwhelming chemistry with Cat. If he struggles off the surgery so be it, but the risk-reward is favorable given it's not a long term commitment. No question a W for the team.
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NHL
Nov. 27, 2023 at 6:58 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #2: Early Overreactions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>https://www.tsn.ca/minnesota-wild-fire-head-coach-dean-evason-assistant-coach-bob-woods-1.2041478?tsn-amp</div></div>
Jay Woodcroft: .671
Dean Evason: .639
So when is it DJ Smith's turn
.469 btw
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NHL Signings
Nov. 27, 2023 at 1:31 p.m.
Thread:
San Jose Sharks signed Justin Bailey (1 Year / $775,000 AAV)
Lol
Forum:
NHL
Nov. 24, 2023 at 10:07 a.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #2: Early Overreactions
Here’s what I don’t get about EDM and some of their fans.
Let’s take the Pens, Crosby comes in, plays for a few years - they realize this is a winning team (Crosby Malkin aka Connor Leon).
2008 before their first cup they trade a first, and handful more to get Dupuis/ Hossa. During the years 2008-2023
2008 - traded first + assets (prospects / players)
2013 - traded first + assets (prospect / players)
2015 - traded first (Barzal) to EDM (who traded that pick for Griffin Reinhart lmfao)
2015 - traded another first + boatload
2017 - traded a first + assets
2018 - traded another first + more
2020 - traded a first + assets
2020 - traded another first + assets
2023 - traded another first + assets
9 firsts + boatloads more always going all in with Crosby, Malkin, Letang, Fleury etc. I get EDM doesn’t got a Letang/ Fleury (well they internally think they do with Nurse lol) but cmon..
EDM since 2015 (if we don’t count traded Barzal for Reinhart lol)/ McDavids arrival…
Have:
2021 SWAPPED FIRSTS; Wallstedt for Xavier lmfao
2022 SWAPPED FIRSTS
2023 traded first + 2022 pick (Reid) for Ekholm.
I’m sorry, and I know well studied fans like <a href="/users/BeterChiarelli" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">@BeterChiarelli</a> may disagree with me. But I think watching a in 8 near 9 years with McDavid, RNH, Leon, Nurse just no goalie - not actually have the ability to buy in.. it’s astonishing. It’s some form of complacency that the team’s management has - that fans don’t want to see the team to try and be fixed now that it’s gotten to this situation. There’s also something rotten within the organization and their misdirection on scouting (pro and amateur) and coaching for their goalies.
I’m a Sharks fan; they were a pinnacle of success for nearly 2 decades and never quite got their cup, damn close though. And not for a second was I ever upset our GM did everything possible to try to win. The Sharks current situation is not result of going all in each year for years: it was the belief they didn’t need to rebuild sooner. But it was not the result of buying in when your team could win.
Forum:
NHL
Nov. 23, 2023 at 1:02 a.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #2: Early Overreactions
A few days ago, I mentioned the Blues had yet to have a single lead change either way in any of their first 17 games. Tonight they had one. Then they had another one less than four minutes later. After another four minutes, another one. And then another one 16 minutes later. None for 17 games and a period, and then four in 24 minutes.
St. Louis Blues hockey in 2023: Buckle up, it's gonna be a weird ride.
Forum:
NHL
Nov. 22, 2023 at 10:51 p.m.
Thread:
2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #2: Early Overreactions
im Mike Grier:
I’m leaving David Quinn in Seattle TONIGHT.
Then I’m waiting till 3am, I’m calling Holland AT 3am *we know he’s going to be a few brews in*, organizing a trade with Campbell for a fleece job to save his JOB.
Then I’m hanging up, calling Woodcroft; telling him to hop on the Bakersfield Condors PJ with Jack Soup and get his behind into some sunshine in California.
——————
Honestly it’s the best play out there for Mr. Grier.
Forum:
NHL
Nov. 1, 2023 at 6:12 p.m.
Thread:
2023-24 NHL Season Discussion Thread #1: Here we Go!
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pinslack</b></div><div>On Dadonov and the 1st forfeit by OTT
We read that VGK "were unaware the clause existed and had no record of receiving a list"
Yet we have the info on CF that OTT signed Dadonov with a 10 teams no-trade list.
That information was public (but the 10 teams in question were not)
VGK still managed to plead ignorance lol</div></div>
Ottawa told Vegas Dadonov didn't submit his clause in time which would've meant he had no clause because he didn't submit a list by the correct deadline, the error is very much on Ottawa. Vegas knew he had a 10-team clause but Dadonov would've submitted that list to Ottawa hence Vegas asking Ottawa about it
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NHL
Oct. 28, 2023 at 10:03 p.m.
Thread:
2023-24 NHL Season Discussion Thread #1: Here we Go!
So apparently Ottawa will be punished for not telling Vegas Evgeni Dadonov had a NTC (which then caused the debacle that was the Anaheim-Vegas Dadonov trade)
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NHL
Oct. 28, 2023 at 6:18 p.m.
Thread:
2023-24 NHL Season Discussion Thread #1: Here we Go!
Goalie Controversies:
Anaheim - Dostal got the start today and won, giving him an even split of the first 8 game of the season and the Ducks showing that they are doing a full Tandem/Platoon deployment with Gibson.
Seattle - Daccord gets the start today, making his 3rd straight and 5th out of 9 on the season. Grubauer has 4 starts and looks to be a 1B again just like last year; eventually he might lose his job permanently for allowing "the other guy" to take the net early in the season (Jones last year and Driedger the prior one).
Buffalo - not really a controversy, but UPL now gets his chance to get a hot hand in Buffalo and it might well be his last real shot if he blows it.
Toronto - Samsonov gets the start today; giving him a slight edge over Woll on the season. His deployment is the same as Demko in Vancouver so far. Unless performance dictates a change; this looks likely a 1A/1B split with 2 out 3 going to Samsonov.
Ottawa - Korpisalo gets the 2nd straight start breaking the rotation with him and Forsberg. Could be the opportunity he needs to take the 1A job but Sens don't have a lot of games coming up (only 9 games in next 30 days) so they might still split duty to stay fresh.
New Jersey - If Schmid starts tomorrow it will be an even split and reveal that the Devils are going for a Tandem/Platoon with Vanecek.
Edmonton - If Skinner gets the start tomorrow it will be same as NJ but if it is Campbell then Oilers are showing a 1A/1B rotation in favor of Jack.
Forum:
NHL
Oct. 26, 2023 at 1:46 p.m.
Thread:
2023-24 NHL Season Discussion Thread #1: Here we Go!
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NHL
Oct. 26, 2023 at 1:25 p.m.
Thread:
2023-24 NHL Season Discussion Thread #1: Here we Go!
Betting -3200 on Pinto getting suspended for sports betting was is an all time win in my sports betting career. (This post is sponsored to you by Draft Kings)
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Fauteuil - DG
Oct. 25, 2023 at 3:55 p.m.
Thread:
Pagnotta
Nope. Rather just keep Mantha than have Armia on the books next year
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Fauteuil - DG
Oct. 25, 2023 at 4:46 p.m.
Thread:
Pagnotta
MTL needs to add here and I'd be ok with that frankly. Nothing crazy but Mantha even though makes more this year, is worth more than Armia whose got another year left.
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Fauteuil - DG
Oct. 25, 2023 at 9:21 p.m.
Thread:
Pagnotta
I just don't see why Washington would do this unless they REALLY needed that 2.3m to make another move but what other move could they make with that money that turns them into a playoff team? If they looked like they could compete for a playoff spot and were going to add another defender or depth forward at the deadline then sure I could see it but why would they do that rn. The flexibility for next year is much more important for where this team is right now
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Fauteuil - DG
Oct. 25, 2023 at 3:50 p.m.
Thread:
Pagnotta
Montreal should jump at this but the Caps should shoot it down imo. There is no way they should take on the extra year.
Forum:
NHL
Oct. 18, 2023 at 6:04 p.m.
Thread:
2023-24 NHL Season Discussion Thread #1: Here we Go!
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>IconicHawk</b></div><div>Was saying that Kent Hughes took an L that Dach trade, just handed us a free first for that injury riddled bum</div></div>
That was a win-win trade
Habs got Dach
Hawks got Nazar and enough points dropped in the standings to get Befart
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NHL Signings
Oct. 9, 2023 at 2:52 p.m.
Thread:
Tampa Bay Lightning signed Austin Watson (1 Year / $776,665 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>svensk_forskare</b></div><div>leaves them with $2 of cap space using LTIR for Brown but not Vasy
might as well give Watson every dollar you can since the ACSL is set relative to the payroll after he signs</div></div>
They’re gonna sign me for $2 tomorrow
You heard it here first.
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NHL Signings
Oct. 9, 2023 at 2:46 p.m.
Thread:
Tampa Bay Lightning signed Austin Watson (1 Year / $776,665 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheFastAndTheFleuryous</b></div><div>How very specific</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>svensk_forskare</b></div><div>leaves them with $2 of cap space using LTIR for Brown but not Vasy
might as well give Watson every dollar you can since the ACSL is set relative to the payroll after he signs</div></div>
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4606921
Hey I predicted this cap hit and the bogosian waivers thing
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NHL Signings
Oct. 9, 2023 at 2:09 p.m.
Thread:
Tampa Bay Lightning signed Austin Watson (1 Year / $776,665 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>svensk_forskare</b></div><div>leaves them with $2 of cap space using LTIR for Brown but not Vasy
might as well give Watson every dollar you can since the ACSL is set relative to the payroll after he signs</div></div>
This is why I don't understand what the Avs are doing (unless there is a move(s) pending); with Landeskog and possibly Francouz on LTIR; they should be spending up to the cap limit + those LTIR salaries (especially Landy) and they have a roster spot or 2 to do it.
There is not enough discussion about ACSL strategies and when/how to take advantage of it.
Forum:
NHL Signings
Oct. 9, 2023 at 3:57 p.m.
Thread:
Winnipeg Jets signed Mark Scheifele (7 Years / $8,500,000 AAV)
I said the same thing on the Hellebuyck contract but, as a Jets fan, I’m on cloud 9! I understand people are gonna complain about the term but AAV is great and it’s extremely nice to see a talented player choose to extend in WPG! Awesome!
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NHL Signings
Oct. 9, 2023 at 3:31 p.m.
Thread:
Winnipeg Jets signed Mark Scheifele (7 Years / $8,500,000 AAV)
big money into the mid and late 30s is always a massive risk. the good news is that he hasn't had any major injuries which could affect is longevity though.
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