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2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #2: Early Overreactions

Nov. 20, 2023 at 7:06 p.m.
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It may be early but that doesn’t mean we can’t make observations that’ll totally remain consistent as they season goes on!
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Nov. 20, 2023 at 7:47 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
It may be early but that doesn’t mean we can’t make observations that’ll totally remain consistent as they season goes on!


this is the correct name for this thread.
Nov. 20, 2023 at 8:47 p.m.
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Mikkola was a great add for Florida. Playing like a top 4 D and is signed for 2.5 for the next 3 years
Nov. 20, 2023 at 9:50 p.m.
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OEL-Myers woulda hit like crack
Nov. 20, 2023 at 9:52 p.m.
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OEL-Myers woulda hit like crack


Those two being reunited would be bad...For the Panthers

I say do it
Nov. 20, 2023 at 9:53 p.m.
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So its pretty clear coach was not the problem in EDM

Holland better get his bags ready

Hes next
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Nov. 20, 2023 at 10:12 p.m.
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So its pretty clear coach was not the problem in EDM

Holland better get his bags ready

Hes next


Man that roster and cap issue is like playing a simulator on "Very Difficult" setting.

Little to no prospect capital, no cap room, a 1-2 year window, and the only assets other teams would pay a premium to acquire are two of the best players in the league; which are very difficult to find complementary players for.

The only thing they have are those 1st round picks; but whoever needs to make changes is either going to have to part with one or more of those or Draisatl.
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Nov. 20, 2023 at 10:21 p.m.
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Man that roster and cap issue is like playing a simulator on "Very Difficult" setting.

Little to no prospect capital, no cap room, a 1-2 year window, and the only assets other teams would pay a premium to acquire are two of the best players in the league; which are very difficult to find complementary players for.

The only thing they have are those 1st round picks; but whoever needs to make changes is either going to have to part with one or more of those or Draisatl.


You could trade RNH and get a pretty nice blue liner back to help with the defense without sacrificing to much on offense.
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Nov. 20, 2023 at 10:27 p.m.
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Mikkola was a great add for Florida. Playing like a top 4 D and is signed for 2.5 for the next 3 years


I spent quite a bit of time on him: super tough, kinda mean, will block shots all night, but is out of position a loooooooot. Very … like impatient. Kinda like how little kids play soccer. Perhaps floridas system helps him with that aspect, glad to see him do well.
Nov. 20, 2023 at 11:04 p.m.
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You could trade RNH and get a pretty nice blue liner back to help with the defense without sacrificing to much on offense.


Full NMC thru 2028-29 plus he is one of the few defensively responsible forwards so I do think it would hurt team defense.
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Nov. 20, 2023 at 11:51 p.m.
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Full NMC thru 2028-29 plus he is one of the few defensively responsible forwards so I do think it would hurt team defense.


Considering the Oilers struggles if they look to potentially miss the playoffs he will probs waive it

As even with him on that team they are struggling defensively

They got McDaivd, Draisaitl, Hyman, Kane, etc for the PK they can move on

A top pair Blue liner is needed for that team someone with pedigree

As maybe making it to where Ceci isnt in the top pair will help them

Imagine Pesce + extension for RNH

And if he comes but goaltending still is a mess in the summer you make a move to address that.
Nov. 21, 2023 at 12:47 a.m.
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https://twitter.com/budsallday34/status/1726776054784598404

Honestly just feel bad for the guy

He had so much to prove but it was mostly disappointment and now it may be the end of him like Klefbolm
Nov. 21, 2023 at 1:23 a.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
https://twitter.com/budsallday34/status/1726776054784598404

Honestly just feel bad for the guy

He had so much to prove but it was mostly disappointment and now it may be the end of him like Klefbolm


Is the Leafs LTIR defense more talented than their healthy top four?

Muzzin-Klingberg
Timmins-Liljegren

vs
Rielly-Brodie
Giordano-McCabe
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Nov. 21, 2023 at 1:29 a.m.
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Is the Leafs LTIR defense more talented than their healthy top four?

Muzzin-Klingberg
Timmins-Liljegren

vs
Rielly-Brodie
Giordano-McCabe


Timmins will prbs be back tomorrow based on their paper transaction of sending McMann and Benoit down

But yea kind of funny
Nov. 21, 2023 at 12:16 p.m.
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No games today?
Nov. 21, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.
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No games today?


None today (not sure why) or Thursday (American Thanksgiving); but loaded up on Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday and a handful on Sunday.

Lots of teams have B2B games this weekend.
Nov. 21, 2023 at 12:26 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 21, 2023 at 12:33 p.m.
https://twitter.com/GeoffWalker30/status/1726811227874374050

Holland be counting the days till the stamp be ready
Nov. 21, 2023 at 12:49 p.m.
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Quoting: Hurricanes_WPG
No games today?


Quoting: HockeyScotty
None today (not sure why) or Thursday (American Thanksgiving); but loaded up on Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday and a handful on Sunday.

Lots of teams have B2B games this weekend.


Explanation on Sportsnet.
Only 3 arenas available, teams returning from Europe, too many games and back-to-backs if the available teams did play, and holiday things.
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Nov. 21, 2023 at 5:11 p.m.
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No games today?


Apparently as Ricochettii said, only 3 arenas are available (Arizona, Vancouver, Calgary). Vancouver and Calgary are in the US (like most teams because it’s American thanksgiving so teams want to be in the US) and Arizona if they had a game today would make them have 4 games in 5 days
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Nov. 21, 2023 at 9:43 p.m.
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Wait, what? You can add clauses to current contracts when negotiating an extension?? I had no idea
Nov. 22, 2023 at 12:23 a.m.
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Wait, what? You can add clauses to current contracts when negotiating an extension?? I had no idea


Can you?
Nov. 22, 2023 at 12:56 a.m.
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Goalie update.

Grubauer has been pulled from 2 of his last 5 starts after the 1st period; now is out with an injury. Driedger getting called up from AHL; Daccord hasn't exactly been taking advantage of the situation to this point.
Nov. 22, 2023 at 2:50 a.m.
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Goalie update.

Grubauer has been pulled from 2 of his last 5 starts after the 1st period; now is out with an injury. Driedger getting called up from AHL; Daccord hasn't exactly been taking advantage of the situation to this point.


Driedger to me is the guy to watch. In FLA he was really good. But thanks to injuries in SEA it derailed him. I think the starting job is his for the taking

Grubauer since he signed that deal meh. Like hes had moments but its like Markstrom never consistent

Daccord hes a backup or a #3 on most good teams.


Honestly one of SEA's biggest mistakes spending on Grubauer and not keeping Vanacek
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Nov. 22, 2023 at 7:12 a.m.
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Can you?


I guess so. On the Wild's CF page, Ryan Hartman is listed as having an NMC, I thought that was just for his new deal, but it says it was also "negotiated for the 2023-24 season as part of his 3 year extension signed on October 7, 2023).

Guess you learn something new every day.
Nov. 22, 2023 at 7:27 a.m.
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Wait, what? You can add clauses to current contracts when negotiating an extension?? I had no idea


Quoting: NorthernLeafsFan05
Can you?


Yes, you can, you can retroactively add a clause to the final year of a previous contract when signing an extension (really only applies to the off-season extensions that get signed before they play the last year of their current contract)
 
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