SalarySwishSalarySwish
Avatar

refboyardee

refboyardee
Member Since
Oct. 2, 2018
Favourite Team
Toronto Maple Leafs
2nd Favourite Team
Vegas Golden Knights
Forum Posts
10
Posts per Day
0.0
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 10, 2018 at 1:51 a.m.
Thread: Would any side consider this
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>I'd like to add that we have ~32 million in space next year.
If this scenario happens, it means that management is unsure what to do with Willy, and are considering a trade down the line.
Willy at 5.75 (5 yrs)+ Marner at 7.5 (6 yrs) + Matthews at 11(8 yrs) = 24.25 million
32 - 24.25 = 7.75 + Horton LTIR = ~13
Need to resign Kappy + Johnsson + Backup + 4C + Bring up a 4LW from the Marlies + Bring up 2 D from marlies + one more D.
Kappy + Johnsson should be 4. Backup plus 4C should be &lt;2. 4LW &lt;1, 2 Marlies D (Borg/Rosen and Liljegren) &lt;2 = &lt;9 million. 4 million to spend and only need 1 D + 1 extra (the 32 mil counts holl and goat)

I think the 2 stars was mean to this, as you don't seem to actually highlight a problem with the idea, considering the one thing you said did not take into account term (which is the important part of this ACGM).</div></div>

The problem with the idea is that there is no way Nylander would sign a deal for less than what he is worth regardless of the term. The 2 star rating was fair, as I highlighted a lot of things as well as the main problem with the deal. Nylander will not sign for anything less than 6 per year, and at minimum he MAY sign for 6.5 with a boatload of perks. The idea of him signing for 5.75, regardless of length, warrants a no star rating, so I think I'm being quite generous with two.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 6, 2018 at 2:05 a.m.
Thread: Would any side consider this
This isn't realistic. But not for the reasons you think. Read on.

Nylander isn't going to sign for 5.75. You said it yourself, if he signed last year it would be at least for 6. Realistically he's worth anywhere between 6-6.75 AAV, so let's say for the sake of argument the lowest he'll go is 6.5M. This takes up slightly more of a cap hit, but regardless of the deal, that doesn't really matter.

This is the situation the Leafs face right now. With as many people the Leafs need to consider re-signing within the next 270 days, give or take, it basically comes down to sign Nylander or sign Matthews. With how much cap space they have (4th highest in the league at the moment according to this site), they still need to consider (with the exception of Matthews/Nylander) 6 forwards, 3 defencemen and a goalie. Suddenly that 15 ish million dollar pie (considering the rumoured cap increase to 82.5M, and of course this takes some rounding on my end) gets a hell of a lot smaller to divide.

The best case scenario for the Leafs, which in this day and age is a bit of a pipe dream, is to hope beyond hopes that Matthews and Nylander can agree to take a pay cut until 2020-21. Why then? Notwithstanding cap increases, there are two very big money hits that will dissipate. We can more or less assume that Marleau's current deal will be his last (dude will be 41 by the start of the 2020-21 season) and the hit caused by taking Horton's deal will finally be off our backs. That's 11.5M in cap space freed up. But that's two years from now. Until then, the Leafs are basically going to have to bow to every request that doesn't include a dollar sign just to get Matthews and Nylander to consider staying, with the promise of a large portion of a roughly 27 million dollar pie in two years being all the Leafs can do in terms of money talks, not counting any further cap increases to add to it.

In short, this is where the Tavares deal, as good for hype as it was, rears its ugly head. The Leafs are very likely to lose either one of them, if not both, as a direct result from the Tavares deal. As much of a pay cut he reportedly took, the hit on the cap still all but guarantees that at least one of them are leaving.