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Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2019 at 1:13 p.m.

Thread: Deadline Blockbusters - EDM amp PHI

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Y2J1399</b></div><div>As per Darren Dreger, "Talks between Duchene camp and the Sens expected to continue this week. Range for 8 YR term is believed to be between $65 and $75 mil. So, either in the 8's or 9+ AAV. Still ballpark discussions." So nothing has been offered but I can tell you no one else in the league is offering him over $8 mil per to play for their team. He'll be a Sen for sure.</div></div>

Yeah I saw that, still don't think it's the best decision for the Sens but we'll see. Kypreos announced that the Sens had offered him the 8x8
* He's also still #1 on TSN trade bait board

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2019 at 12:31 p.m.

Thread: Deadline Blockbusters - EDM amp PHI

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>You should be targeting playoff teams for your deadline trades.</div></div>

Edmonton is three points out of a playoff spot and Chiarelli is desperate to get them in. Wouldn't normally target Philly, just threw it out there since someone else was talking about it.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2019 at 12:30 p.m.

Thread: Deadline Blockbusters - EDM amp PHI

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangles</b></div><div>It wasn't meant to be mean. It just looks like you are trying to recoup pieces that you lost to COL in that deal. But I don't see a need for Duchene in Philly. We are pretty heavy down the middle.</div></div>

Duchene can also play the wing but yeah, I didn't see the fit either, I just saw someone else speculating about it so I thought I'd play around with it. Not trying to recoup pieces as much as it is just continuing the rebuild that the Sens are now in.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2019 at 12:21 p.m.

Thread: Deadline Blockbusters - EDM amp PHI

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangles</b></div><div>I mean, I don't think they would say they don't want to be there. It just doesn't make sense to me if either one of them actually wants to win anytime soon.</div></div>

Karlsson basically stated that he didn't want to be here. The other two really seem to want to stay, and I believe Dreger reported that it is more than likely that Stone stays.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2019 at 12:20 p.m.

Thread: Deadline Blockbusters - EDM amp PHI

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangles</b></div><div>That's cute that you are trying to reverse the Colorado trade with us! We will pass!</div></div>

Read the description. Since you think it's an overpayment, I'll fix it up a bit... let me know what you think.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2019 at 12:14 p.m.

Thread: Deadline Blockbusters - EDM amp PHI

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DirtyDangles</b></div><div>I don't see why either guy would want to re-up in OTT. As long as Melnyk is the owner, that team will be a disaster.</div></div>

They've both publicly stated that they want to resign in Ottawa. Duchene can't get any closer to home than in Ottawa and Stone has been here forever. I also think Melnyk is close to being gone.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2019 at 12:10 p.m.

Thread: Deadline Blockbusters - EDM amp PHI

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Y2J1399</b></div><div>Duchene is close to an 8 yr/$75 mil extension with the Sens. Seems like he's off the market.</div></div>

They're working on it, but I don't think it's too close yet (side note, they offered $64M, not $75M). I still think they're way better off resigning Stone and trading Duchene, and that would also work better for Eugene's pocket, but we'll see what happens.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2019 at 12:07 p.m.

Thread: Deadline - PHI EDM VGK MIN

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>hockey analysts are saying are saying Dzingle is worth a 1st round pick, and Jesse is, in the eyes of NHL GMs and anyone without a bias, is a Bust, does not stop a GM from offering a 2nd or a 3rd to see if he can salvage his career on a new team tho, at most JP is worth a 2nd.</div></div>

So maybe JP and a second for Dzingel? Basically two seconds instead of a first? Or maybe Dzingel for Yamamoto?

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2019 at 11:06 a.m.

Thread: Deadline - PHI EDM VGK MIN

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>OTT big pass on EDM deal, no way neer fair value for Dzingle.</div></div>

Just trying to be unbiased a Sens fan, would love if they could get more, but he is a rental so we will see. I also think people are underrating Puljujarvi

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2019 at 11:05 a.m.

Thread: Deadline - PHI EDM VGK MIN

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bdinella</b></div><div>Flyers want Stone and Anderson but can’t see them paying for Ott asking price</div></div>

Why would a basement team want Stone, who is a UFA? I also think Ottawa will resign him, but who knows

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 22, 2019 at 1:16 a.m.

Thread: Deadline - PHI EDM VGK MIN

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>msekkes</b></div><div>Definite no from the Flyers. Dumping MacDonald would be nice to bring up a player like Myers to the NHL. Anderson and Cici are not worth giving up Myers and don't really help the team now or in the future.</div></div>

Fair enough. Any idea what the Flyers are looking for? Them and the Sens have been scouting each other recently, not sure if it means much...

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 20, 2019 at 6:04 p.m.

Thread: Sens 2019

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>OTT big no on VGS and EDM trade, Dzingle worth more than a bust and a 4th rounder.</div></div>

Would love if they could get more, just trying to be conservative in the trades so not to be biased. And I certainly wouldn't call Puljujarvi a bust yet, I think he'll be a solid top 6 forward.

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 8, 2018 at 12:15 p.m.

Thread: 2019 Season Opener

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>He won't end up getting 60 points. He is also a product of his linemates to some degree. The biggest issue is he is going to free agency to see what he can get so this is a 90 day rental and no more. If he was a RFA, for sure he'd get a 1st but not as a UFA.</div></div>

Plenty of UFA's fetch first round picks from contenders at the end of the year, and I think he could very well stay on pace. He's actually been spending some time on the third line as Boucher attempts to "balance the lines". Fair enough though, I will change it to a 2nd + 4th

Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 8, 2018 at 12:07 p.m.

Thread: 2019 Season Opener

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>I doubt anyone is going to give up a 1st for Dzingel since he's a UFA and it's a short term rental. That said, OTT should move him as he is unlikely to re-sign with OTT. He is definitely worth a 2nd rounder and maybe a 2nd and 4th.</div></div>

If he stays on pace for 30 goals and 60 points, I could see a contender giving up a 1st for him at the deadline. Might not be Carolina, I just used them because they are currently in the playoff race and are looking for a top 6 forward. If not a first, then yeah a 2nd +

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 22, 2018 at 3:54 p.m.

Thread: Erik Karlsson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RadekFaksa</b></div><div>They could probably send him off to MTL or somewhere else with a pick. Not a bad player, just injuries are killing him</div></div>

Yes, there could definitely be a third team involved.

Forum: Armchair-GMAug. 22, 2018 at 3:34 p.m.

Thread: Erik Karlsson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RadekFaksa</b></div><div>I don’t know if Dallas would be willing to do Heiskanen with that package AND a first. Heiskanen Hanzal +1st would probably get it done. Maybe a 2nd that turns to a first if the Stars get to the west final</div></div>

Hanzal is a cap dump, DAL would need to make room for Karlsson's salary. DAL would have to add more to get Ottawa to take Hanzal.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 21, 2018 at 4:57 p.m.

Thread: If Karlsson Stays - Year 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>that seems like a huge cap hit for Duchene, especially at that length. Some with stone</div></div>

I was highballing on all of them just to prove that they can afford to resign Karlsson, Duchene, and Stone without surpassing the cap.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 20, 2018 at 8:46 p.m.

Thread: If Karlsson Stays - Year 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sens4life</b></div><div>It'd be nice if maybe Jaros could fill in to the top 4 and then we could sign a bigger free agent instead of Hamhuis.</div></div>

Yeah that would be great if Euge isn't running the ship lol. I signed Hamius because I was thinking that the Sens could take a LHD like Jared McIsaac to take that place in a couple years. Would love to see Jaros move up and make Ceci expendable.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 20, 2018 at 8:43 p.m.

Thread: If Karlsson Leaves - Year 1

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>clark</b></div><div>vegas has good team, they aren't trading their second and third best defencemen for a one year karlsson and a cap dump. plus you've added their best prospect and a pick.</div></div>

I am assuming this would only happen if they agree upon a contract beforehand. At $5M, Ryan is barely a cap dump. It might be a little hopeful to throw in both dmen, but this deal was on the verge of happening at the deadline with the same parameters but just one of the dmen; and now Vegas is a little more desperate and has the opportunity to guarantee a contract extension for Karlsson.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2018 at 9:47 p.m.

Thread: The Circus (2)

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sens4life</b></div><div>Dont know if Carolina would do that...Edmonton trade is good tho</div></div>

Asking price is apparently a first and a prospect so that's what I did, and Carolina does love those Finnish boys haha. Thanks!

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 13, 2018 at 4:29 p.m.

Thread: Karlsson, Tavares, Grubauer, Johnson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>you arent getting Jost or Girard in an EK trade, based on the Vegas frame work...that isnt happening . Ott wants their own 1st round pick back in the worst way. You arent giving up that pick and some of your best young players for him.

The deal is a bit light on the prospect end, but Ott 1st, Barrie, and maybe another piece is as much as it goes compared to Cody Glass, a pick, and Colin Miller. Dont see the big difference in value bw the 2 there</div></div>

That's the value when acquiring Ryan's contract as well. Value goes up if Ryan's no in the trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2018 at 7:15 p.m.

Thread: Zaddddinaaa

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HABS19</b></div><div>MTL takes Zadina, OTT takes Boqvist/Hughes</div></div>

Doubt Ottawa takes either of those two... we'll see

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2018 at 7:05 p.m.

Thread: Zaddddinaaa

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>Who does MTL take if not Zadina?</div></div>

Kotkaniemi or Hughes are my guesses. It's a little hopeful, but Zadina himself said he thinks Montreal is going after a centre or a defenceman

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 11, 2018 at 6:55 p.m.

Thread: Zaddddinaaa

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OIlers4Life</b></div><div>No way I take Ceci and lose Nurse at the same time...</div></div>

Thought that one might be pushing it... changed it up

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 30, 2018 at 12:34 p.m.

Thread: Sens Year 1

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DaMan</b></div><div>Not bad and pretty realistic, I hope they sign De Haan, but I think it might be for a little more than $4M. The big question is what will Ceci's next contract look like? I definitely don't believe he should be signed for over $4M and for 4+years, but the way Sens management seems to be enamored with him I think the potential for them to make a big mistake on $$ and term is pretty high here. You're contract for Ceci IMO is probably the most ideal outcome.</div></div>

I hope they sign De Haan, but I'm just happy as long as they sign Karlsson/Duchene/Stone at this point. Agreed, it should be a bridge contract because he hasn't proved anything yet, but management could mess up big time on that one.

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