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Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2023 at 2:22 a.m.
Thread:
God help EDM
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JKCpp</b></div><div>Flyers would accept that immediately that is complete rip off for Edmonton skinner is an upgrade compared to Carter hart</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>Keep telling urself that bud, didn’t Stuart collapse in the playoffs? 0.883 in the playoffs versus Hart at 0.926, oh and Skinner was 24 and Hart was 21. Would rather have someone in net who performs when it actually counts. Regular season wise, Skinner has had minimally better numbers than Hart on an extremely better team lol. Idk what’s more laughable this take u think ur making or the terrible offer for Hart</div></div>
Flyers are taking that immediately, I don’t know what you’re on. Hart has been in the league much longer than Skinner and has had absolutely terrible numbers every year. Skinner was miles ahead of Hart in his first season in the NHL. Skinner is also signed for a cheap contract the next two years. Hart is one of the most overrated goalies in the entire league and this “hype” around him cause he’s still young is just complete nonsense
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2023 at 2:11 a.m.
Thread:
Wishful Thinking
Paying assets to get rid of our 1st pairing D and nothing to replace him with… nice
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 14, 2023 at 2:07 a.m.
Thread:
What if campbell gone
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>Holloway, Tullio, 1st, 2nd for Campbell with $1M retained, would be my ask from Arizona, it's a flat cap, they gotta get value.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JmoneyTalk</b></div><div>Waaaay to much to pay for a cap dump.. ridiculously to much</div></div>
It’s a lot to pay and Holland is better off running it back in hopes that Campbell can rebound. Otherwise that’s the price to pay to offload a 20m 4 year cap dump. It will cost a fortune
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 11, 2023 at 6:07 p.m.
Thread:
RRR July 2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Lindholm is a steal at anything less than 8.5M, especially considering thats what Dubois just got and he's not nearly as good as Lindholm. I personally would not feel comfortable giving Nylander more than 9M. Tkachuk got 9.5M and Gaudreau got 9.75M. Nylander may want that much but he is not nearly as good as them.</div></div>
It’s hard to base contracts off other players because teams cap scenarios are different and term also plays a big factor. Teams tend to overpay for big name players (e.g Dubois) when they aren’t worth it. Am I giving Lindholm more than 8.5m after the season he just had? Definitely not. As for Nylander he’s shown consistency and can potentially hit 50 goals next season if he tried, lots of upside there. I think 9 is on the low end for a player like that.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 11, 2023 at 5:27 p.m.
Thread:
RRR July 2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Lol at putting stock in their results from 7 years ago.
Let me ask you this, what do you think Nylander is worth on his next contract, what would you be willing to pay him?</div></div>
I’d give Nylander 9.5 and Lindholm between 8-8.5
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 11, 2023 at 3:40 p.m.
Thread:
RRR July 2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>You literally said "How did you manage to put Lindholm in the selke conversation when he hasn’t even been considered in the top 10 for selke voting… ever?" Lindholm has finished top 10 in Selke voting <strong>3 times in the last 5 years</strong>. Tkachuk and Gaudreau did not get him nominated for being a 2-way center last year, especially Gaudreau who has been hounded his entire career for being a known cherry picker. Lindholm is the one who anchored the best line in the league that season, he did all the heavy lifting that allowed those 2 wingers to run amuck offensively. He enables players to thrive offensively like Bergeron does for his wingers (though Bergeron is at a whole different level, he's the best 2-way center in the entire league since Datsyuk). Just look at this most recent season, Dube and Toffoli both had career years in production.
I have no idea why you are bringing up Nylander's D+3 season, he entered the league the exact same season as Matthews and Marner so Toronto was in a far better state than Carolina was when Lindholm entered the league. Both players finished the season 3rd in team scoring too, the difference is Carolina as a team sucked (8th in the Metro) and Toronto as a team did not (3rd in Atlantic). Either way that is completely irrelevant to who the players are today.
How about you look at a side by side comparison of Nylander and Lindholm instead.
<a href="https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php?fromseason=20202021&thruseason=20222023&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=y&p1=8477939&p2=8477496&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Here is them over the last 3 seasons</a>
<a href="https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php?fromseason=20222023&thruseason=20222023&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=y&p1=8477939&p2=8477496&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Here is them just this last season</a></div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dannibalcorpse</b></div><div>Lindholm has 3 top-10 Selke finishes in his 5 years in Calgary; also I'm not sure how Tkachuk & Gaudreau's offense is what helped him finish 2nd in the voting last season. He was still 2nd on the Flames in scoring this season - I struggle to think of any player who won't see his production decline when you go from skating with those two to spending the most of your time 5v5 with Dillon Dube & Tyler Toffoli (who both set career highs in scoring this year, for what it's worth.)
Lindholm at C with his 0.69 career PPG (0.88 in 5 seasons in Calgary, btw) at his $4.85M AAV is just as valuable as Willie Nylander at RW with his 0.82 career PPG and $6.9M cap hit.</div></div>
It’s fine to overvalue your own players. When I compare them from the years they entered the league until now Nylander is higher in the majority of stats (with the exception being some defensive areas) including the scoresheet which is what matters the most. If you think lindholm is better than the RW who finished 4th in RW scoring in the entire league this year then I don’t know what else to say other then let’s wait and see.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 11, 2023 at 2:47 p.m.
Thread:
RRR July 2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Nylander is not 2 years younger, he is 1 year and and 5 months younger. Hence why they were drafted 1 year apart.
The leafs have made the 2nd round once since they drafted Nylander in 2014, the bar for playoff performance is not exactly high there.
Lindholm literally finished 2nd in Selke voting 1 year ago. How are you that ignorant? He also finished 10th in voting this year
<img class="for_img" src="https://i.imgur.com/lsre1i2.png" alt="lsre1i2.png">
Both Lindholm and Nylander have only ever gotten 40 goals once. As for points Jason Robertson had 24 more points than Matthews this year, so logically you would trade Matthews for Robertson in a heartbeat.</div></div>
I feel like you’re grasping at straws here. One season where he played with Gaudreau and Tkachuk and had a career year and got 2nd in Selke voting does not automatically make him a selke caliber player. There’s no consistency with Lindholm, he was a 40 point player at the start of his career for many years, then had a couple good seasons and now is back to his 20 goal ways. Nylander started off as a 60 point guy and now is consistent over point per game.
I’m not going to try and predict the future of these two players but I know Nylander would get a much more substantial return from any team in the league, whereas many teams might view Lindholm as a top 6 guy and not a 1C as he struggled to drive the top line without tkachuk and Gaudreau this year.
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 11, 2023 at 2:40 p.m.
Thread:
Oilers
Oilers say no 10 out of 10 times
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Armchair-GM
Jul. 11, 2023 at 4:39 a.m.
Thread:
Last offseason moves for playoff push
So trading for a 3rd pairing D then signing a 3rd pair D (Dumba) and trading for a fourth liner who’s making 5m is going to push you guys over the edge? I think quite the opposite
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 11, 2023 at 4:24 a.m.
Thread:
RRR July 2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Lol no they don't, Lindholm is absolutely the more valuable player. He is a Selke caliber player and plays the far more valuable position. Nylander is a bit better offensively but pales in comparison defensively</div></div>
Lindholm is the more valuable player? Come on dude that’s just incredibly false. Nylander is 2 years younger, has a .82 points per game compared to Lindholms .69 , he’s a consistent 30-40 goal scorer, has been the leafs best playoff performer for many years and is one of the best possession wingers in the entire NHL. How did you manage to put Lindholm in the selke conversation when he hasn’t even been considered in the top 10 for selke voting… ever?
Nylander is the much more valuable player in the league and it’s not even close, Lindholm isn’t even comparable.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 11, 2023 at 2:58 a.m.
Thread:
Improvements
7m to sign a defenseman that’s worth 3m is pretty insane
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 11, 2023 at 2:52 a.m.
Thread:
RRR July 2023
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Flames decline</div></div>
In what world do flames ever decline that? They get a player that’s 1.5x more valuable with no strings attached. They literally flip him the next day for twice as much. What are you thinking my brother?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 11, 2023 at 2:52 a.m.
Thread:
RRR July 2023
Leafs never do this, ever
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 10, 2023 at 4:36 p.m.
Thread:
oilers 23-24 season
A pipe dream maybe
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 10, 2023 at 4:30 p.m.
Thread:
Trade ceci is a good solution
So trade ceci and do nothing to replace him? Nice downgrade
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 9, 2023 at 2:20 a.m.
Thread:
Should we keep Dumba
Tbh your team is better without Dumba
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 9, 2023 at 2:16 a.m.
Thread:
Playing Around
Leafs turn Nylander into Shane pinto and 2 nobodies? Wow
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 9, 2023 at 2:01 a.m.
Thread:
Seen this on twitter
So you’re essentially trading Nylander, Brodie, Niemela and a 3rd for Pesce and Konecny? What a bad use of assets and an incredible downgrade
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 9, 2023 at 1:57 a.m.
Thread:
Finish it Brad
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Matt_83</b></div><div>Doesn’t matter that they have no need for him. They’re taking the salary for the Leafs for 1 year of Brodie. Philly isn’t contending any time soon and needs youth/futures. Add a 2nd rounder and Philly takes it. Maybe a different prospect, which would also be fine with TO. TK is really good. He’s not great. Don’t inflate his value because you’re a fan.</div></div>
TK is worth waaay more than that. Point per game player on one of the worst teams and an extremely valuable contract. Philly gains nothing from one year of Brodie, a late 1st and a 4th liner prospect.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 9, 2023 at 1:54 a.m.
Thread:
Lindholm and hanifin to Boston
Boston takes that deal and runs
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 9, 2023 at 1:53 a.m.
Thread:
Dumba Pipedream
Dumba is going to take a 1 year deal with a team where he can play top powerplay and top minutes to maximize his next contract. He’s not going to take a deal to come to Edmonton for one year. He’s also really really bad and going to ask for way too much even though he’s a bottom pairing guy on any team.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 9, 2023 at 1:46 a.m.
Thread:
Hello this is Ken
Lol
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 9, 2023 at 1:45 a.m.
Thread:
If arbitration goes poorly
I definitely think this will be the Oilers roster next season. Unfortunately no upgrades on D and no money to do anything at the deadline as well
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 9, 2023 at 1:44 a.m.
Thread:
Patching some things
DeMelo is heavily overpaid. Also islanders don’t need ceci especially since Pageau is coming off a 40 pt season
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Jul. 9, 2023 at 1:40 a.m.
Thread:
EDM 2024
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Haynezy</b></div><div>Buffalo could use a veteran goaltender on the squad. Campbell had a bad year but could bounce back and be a great pairing with Levi.</div></div>
Campbell isn’t a veteran goalie lol he’s only been a starter for a couple years. There’s tons of veteran goalies out there for league minimum salary. This never happens
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