Marner and Gardiner

Good luck trying to get both players to take a paycut. After Matthews, Tavares and Nylander all took big money, no chance!

Neither Marner or Gardiner accept those garbage contract, Good luck getting Marner for any thing less then 5 x 11.6 and Gardiner for 6 x 6 Marner is will to sit out until he's either dealt or his demands are met. Nylander and Marner sitting out back to back seasons isn't good for Toronto's reputation.

Marner has the right to sign what any team....so he isn't limited to the Leafs offer. No team is going to trade for him no knowing what his contract is going to be. Do you really think another team is going to offer 11.6m X 5? Or is only the Leafs that have too? There is no team in the league that going to offer Gardiner 6 X 6. Right now there is market for him at that price Now I agree Gardiner is getting more than what was suggested,

Totally agree with what you're saying here, You're right no team will trade for Marner knowing what his asking price will be. They'll just thrown an offer sheet his way then. Gardiner is probably looking at 4 x 5 as of now i agree with you that no team is throwing big money at him right now.

This has been a strange offseason. Aho offer sheeted. And all the other big names RFA still not signed. Some UFA were expected bigger money, didn't such as Ferland. And Williams and Gardiner still not signed. Even a Marner offer that is about 10.6m, four first rounders, do any teams have the stomach for that? And few teams (if any) really have the cap space for Marner in 2020/21 without trading away pieces if any. It's complicated, that Clarkson acquisition which gives Leafs cap space for a delayed signed of Marner. Marner might have more Leaf leverage if he signs after the season starts as the his 2019/20 cap hit could 13m (remember 7m AAV Nylander had over 10m cap hit last year). Think there will be more Leaf drama in August, September, October...maybe longer.