Leafs QO for Mikheyev and Engvall plus Dermotts value

Created by: Britishbulldog

Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 12, 2020

Published: Jan. 12, 2020

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Legend

Left Handed

Original Team

Waivers Exempt

Right Handed

Position

Trade Clause

Max Perf. Bonus

Expiry Status

Term Remaining

McDavid, Connor

$12,500,000 ( Performance Bonus

$250,000)

NMC

UFA - 5

Description

***Mikheyev and Engvall
I am watching Leaf fans breaking open the bank for these 2 rookie forwards. What I have seen consistently is other teams don't know who the rookies are the 1st season but play them much differently the next season if that player made an impact as a rookie.

Similar to Johnsson signing a QO bridge deal to prove he was for real, both these forwards need to do this as well before they get signed to Johnsson, Kerfoot and Kapanen money.

I would like to see both signed to 1 year deals to something around the QO which is:
- Players who earned less than $660,000 in the previous NHL season must be offered at least 110 percent of last season's salary in a qualifying offer.
- Players who earned up to $1 million must be offered 105 percent.
- Players who earned over $1 million must be offered 100 percent.
(https://www.liveabout.com/nhl-restricted-free-agents-2778980)

Even $1.1 - $1.25 MIL would work to see if they are able to sustain their production and show they aren't flash in the pan.

***Dermott - small LHD that simply isn't bad
I think we have become twisted in our view of Leaf players after the last 4 decades(at least for me) of over hyped prospects, etc.

2 dmen that are RHD... and bigger as well (6'2" TVR and 6'4" Mayfield) had similar offensive numbers as 3rd pair dmen but signed for less that $1 MIL on their 2nd 'prove me' contracts. They followed them with $2.3 MIL x 2 and $1.45 MIL x 5 respectively.

( As you probably all know...TVR has been struggling and even a healthy scratch this year so appears to have been a bit over paid)

I have seen some here give Dermott over $3 MIL and one gave over $4 MIL. Dermott is replaceable and not a core piece.

As a 3rd pair dman I feel he should be given a "Mayfield" style contract or trade him and let Sandin help us forget who Dermott is.

************************

How nuts am I?

Buyouts

Mikhail Grabovski: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (15%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$81,997,143	$0	$70,000	-$497,143

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hyman, Zach $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2	Matthews, Auston $11,634,000$11,634,000 C UFA - 5	Marner, Mitchell $10,893,000$10,893,000 RW UFA - 6
Johnsson, Andreas $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 6	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW UFA - 5
Engvall, Pierre $925,000$925,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Kerfoot, Alexander $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 4	Kapanen, Kasperi $3,200,000$3,200,000 RW UFA - 3
Moore, Trevor $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 2		Spezza, Jason $700,000$700,000 C, RW NTC UFA - 1
	Gauthier, Frédérik $675,000$675,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD UFA - 3	Ceci, Cody $4,500,000$4,500,000 RD UFA - 1	Andersen, Frederik $5,000,000$5,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Muzzin, Jake $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 1	Hutchinson, Michael $700,000$700,000 G UFA - 1
Dermott, Travis $863,333$863,333 LD/RD UFA - 1	Holl, Justin $675,000$675,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Marincin, Martin $700,000$700,000 LD UFA - 1		Horton, Nathan $5,300,000$5,300,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
Timashov, Dmytro $694,444$694,444 ($70,000$70K) LW UFA - 1		Clarkson, David $5,250,000$5,250,000 RW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 1
		Mikheyev, Ilya $925,000$925,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Top Comments

Jan. 12, 2020 at 11:59 a.m.

leaflet

Joined: May 2017

Posts: 938

Likes: 253

That sounds very reasonable. They may try to sign Mikheyev for longer, but you're right to say contract number speculation is inflated on this site.

I remember just a few years ago when Brown and Hyman were due for a contract. It would be funny to dig that up. People making AGMs would get lambasted for not giving Connor Brown at least 5M AAV (who just scored 20 goals at the time). Somehow fans are not reliable for these kinds of projections.

Britishbulldog liked this.

Jan. 12, 2020 at 12:04 p.m.

Britishbulldog

C,mon Leafs...Please

Joined: Jun. 2015

Posts: 841

Likes: 331

Quoting: leaflet

You get what I am thinking exactly. Brown scored followed the 20 with 14 goals and then only 8 without ever missing a game (meaning it wasn't injuries that limited him).

With a chance to breakout offensively he is on pace for 12-13 goals this year.

leaflet liked this.

Jan. 12, 2020 at 12:33 p.m.

AnalyticsGeek

Banned

Joined: Sep. 2019

Posts: 5,011

Likes: 1,636

Quoting: Britishbulldog

Quoting: leaflet

If the Leafs sign Mikheyev for 3 or more years, expect the AAV ago be at least 3 million dollars. I think he’s got even more talent and tools than Johnsson.

Britishbulldog liked this.

Jan. 12, 2020 at 12:36 p.m.

Jack_

Kings v5 GM

Joined: Feb. 2018

Posts: 4,769

Likes: 1,626

Dermott will be a core piece and is very valuable. He hasn't played big minutes yet and he wont put up points so his cap hit wont be very high. Hes got all they tools to be a #3 defenseman but he hasn't got the minutes yet. He will be very good

Britishbulldog liked this.

Jan. 12, 2020 at 12:42 p.m.

palhal

LongtimeLeafsufferer

Joined: Jul. 2015

Posts: 60,251

Likes: 23,110

Think it rather silly to think Sandin will make the Leafs forgot Dermot (or whoever is the other LHD,) since they both play the same amount of minutes. Dermot played well with rookie last year and now is playing well with Ceci. Don't think Dermot's on ice value can be dismissed. Now the next contract..both sides have to agree if they want to go long or short. Pros and cons for both parties
Mikheyvov has just two year till he's a UFA, so Leafs might want a longer contract for control, but if they want a show me contract....that's OK, just be prepared to pay more if Mikheyvov does show them.

Britishbulldog liked this.

See All

DISPLAY SETTING

BETTING ODDS

LOCALE

ARCHIVE

CBA

CALCULATORS

FANTASY HOCKEY TOOLS

TOOLS

PLAYERS

WESTERN CONFERENCE

EASTERN CONFERENCE

INTERACTIVE FEATURES

Leafs QO for Mikheyev and Engvall plus Dermotts value

Legend

Description

Buyouts

Retained Salary Transactions

Embed Code

Text-Embed

Top Comments