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Carolina and Montreal Make Up

Created by: ricochetii
Team: 2021-22 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 4, 2021
Published: Sep. 4, 2021
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Legend
Left Handed
Original Team
Waivers Exempt
Right Handed
Position
Trade Clause
Max Perf. Bonus
Expiry Status
Term Remaining
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Waivers ExemptMcDavid, Connor
$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
Just a random musing.
Would be interesting if MB swallowed his pride and something like this happened, but it's incredibly unlikely for a number of reasons. :p
Trades
MTL
  1. Trocheck, Vincent
Additional Details:
Extension: 5 years @ $6M
CAR
    Montreal doesn't match offer sheet for Kotkaniemi.
    Carolina's 1st and 3rd picks are returned to Carolina for Trochek.
    Buyouts
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2022
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    2023
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    2024
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    23$81,500,000$68,937,977$597,561$1,475,000$12,562,023
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$537,500$538K)
    C
    UFA - 1
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    $880,833$880,833 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
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    $4,500,000$4,500,000
    LW
    UFA - 3
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    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $5,500,000$5,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 6
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    $2,125,000$2,125,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 3
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    $750,000$750,000
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
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    $1,150,000$1,150,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $6,500,000$6,500,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 6
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    $750,000$750,000
    C
    UFA - 1
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    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 4
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $875,000$875,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
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    $2,343,750$2,343,750
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 4
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    $10,500,000$10,500,000
    G
    NMC
    UFA - 5
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    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$637,500$638K)
    LD
    RFA - 1
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    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 4
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    $2,875,000$2,875,000
    G
    UFA - 2
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    $1,750,000$1,750,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $750,000$750,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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    $925,000$925,000
    LD/RD
    UFA - 1
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    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $7,857,143$7,857,143
    RD
    UFA - 5
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    $950,000$950,000
    C, LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
    $950,000$950,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 1

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    Sep. 4, 2021 at 2:14 p.m.
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    And that's a no. For a PPG C, the ask would be the earlier of the two picks, so likely Montreal's, the 3rd is fine, but you're still light. With an extension too, you might be asked for both 1sts... this is an easy pass from Carolina.
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    Sep. 4, 2021 at 2:23 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    And that's a no. For a PPG C, the ask would be the earlier of the two picks, so likely Montreal's, the 3rd is fine, but you're still light. With an extension too, you might be asked for both 1sts... this is an easy pass from Carolina.


    Don't take this too seriously as it's never going to happen, just a "what if" they decided to bury the hatchet.
    Gentleman's agreement to stop messing with each other.

    I would suggest something around Staal instead, but he's the captain and has a NMC. Trocheck is a pending UFA with no such protection.
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 2:26 p.m.
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    Quoting: ricochetii
    Don't take this too seriously as it's never going to happen, just a "what if" they decided to bury the hatchet.
    Gentleman's agreement to stop messing with each other.

    I would suggest something around Staal instead, but he's the captain and has a NMC. Trocheck is a pending UFA with no such protection.


    Trocheck is also a PPG C. If Montreal want to bury the hatchet, they're going to have to pay full price and stop acting like the Canes are a minor piece of the league. That's all! Dundon did this because Bergevin was so outspoken with Aho wanting to go to Montreal, and he's going to get himself a 21-year-old C with top 6 upside for it. Hell, I don't even thinks this happens if Montreal don't frontload the Aho deal. If they pay 10 mil and do it in 10 mil signing bonus every year, Dundon probably isn't as angry. It's just because the habs thought they could poach the best player on either team away.
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 2:59 p.m.
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    Quoting: Caniac2000
    Trocheck is also a PPG C. If Montreal want to bury the hatchet, they're going to have to pay full price and stop acting like the Canes are a minor piece of the league. That's all! Dundon did this because Bergevin was so outspoken with Aho wanting to go to Montreal, and he's going to get himself a 21-year-old C with top 6 upside for it. Hell, I don't even thinks this happens if Montreal don't frontload the Aho deal. If they pay 10 mil and do it in 10 mil signing bonus every year, Dundon probably isn't as angry. It's just because the habs thought they could poach the best player on either team away.


    I agree it was a mistake to start it. Disagree about Dundon, this was about ego for him, nothing more. MB prodded him by insinuating Dundon wasn't able or willing to pay.

    Trocheck is not however, a p/g player. He's come close twice, but he's under .7 in his career. Even if you ignore his first 2 seasons, he's only .74.
    I'm not taking away from him, but that's an oversell.
    This is probably closer to the rental price, yes, but the motivation is to cease hostilities. The idea is for everyone to walk away happy.
    MB is also giving up KK here, who he would not otherwise trade for a 1st and a 3rd, so there's lost value on both sides.

    Anyway, we have looked at every angle except for the two teams making amends, which is more of where I was hoping the discussion to go.
    Sep. 4, 2021 at 3:02 p.m.
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    Quoting: ricochetii
    I agree it was a mistake to start it. Disagree about Dundon, this was about ego for him, nothing more. MB prodded him by insinuating Dundon wasn't able or willing to pay.

    Trocheck is not however, a p/g player. He's come close twice, but he's under .7 in his career. Even if you ignore his first 2 seasons, he's only .74.
    I'm not taking away from him, but that's an oversell.
    This is probably closer to the rental price, yes, but the motivation is to cease hostilities. The idea is for everyone to walk away happy.
    MB is also giving up KK here, who he would not otherwise trade for a 1st and a 3rd, so there's lost value on both sides.

    Anyway, we have looked at every angle except for the two teams making amends, which is more of where I was hoping the discussion to go.


    If this is what Montreal will pay, they'll be rebutted. Trocheck is worth more than that, he was a PPG player last year, or close enough to it to call him a PPG player. Carolina have no need to move him and will not move him without their price being met.

    This was not about ego. Bergevin started this with the Aho offer sheet. Dundon splashes money around for fun, and Bergevin was reckless. He acted on the notion Dundon was Karmanos, and it's blwon up iun his face, costing him one of the players on his roster with the biggest upside for a late 1st and a 3rd. This is a mistake Bergevin made.
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