2 for two

Canucks lose the already established NHL player, and a high ceiling prospect for two projects who both have requested trades out of New York

Well this AGM has been up for a couple of hours now so I guess it's time to respond as it doesn't look like this AGM will get many comments.

First off, I partially agree with you, I wouldn't make this trade if I was Vancouver either (although I think the value is fairly close). I was more so interested to gauge NYR fans opinions on the value of this trade, I suspect they would also say not enough value coming back.

For parts of your statement that I don't agree with:
I don't know that I would say Hoglander is quite NHL established, I would say he's more so teetering, there's a decent chance he doesn't crack the roster come September. He has good upside but I'm not sure I would call him established quite yet.
I would agree that Klimovich has a high ceiling assuming a second line winger would be considered a high ceiling. I also think he is a boom or bust prospect that is more likely to bust than boom. I would also say he is the least likely of any of the players in this trade to establish himself as an NHL player, so I would have no problem moving him in a trade like this, especially if it involved a RD prospect coming back.

Hog and Klim have demonstrated that they are good hockey players and even better people. Lundqvist and Kravtsov have demonstrated that they are entitled twigs. Id rather not

People are forgetting Hoglander had a very good rookie year. Decent production and very good analytics, even defensively. He was one of our best two way forwards. Last year he had a textbook sophomore slump and an unsustainable 6% shooting percentage.

I haven’t forgotten his rookie year and the kid still has good middle six potential, I quite like the kid. That said there’s still a decent chance he doesn’t make the team out of camp this year, not saying he won’t and I hope that he does, but I wouldn’t yet say he’s an established NHL player. It’s not super uncommon for guys to have a single good season or have a good start to a career and then fade and teeter for the rest of their careers, i do not think that’s the case with Hoglander. With that said, established to me is at least two seasons of full time NHL duty without regular scratches or AHL demotions, basically someone that can be counted on year after year to play a regular full time role at the NHL level. Maybe it’s just a difference of opinion on the word “established”.