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Exploring Buch as Meier Comp

Created by: AC14
Team: 2023-24 Vegas Golden Knights
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 27, 2023
Published: Nov. 27, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Left Handed
Original Team
Waivers Exempt
Right Handed
Position
Trade Clause
Max Perf. Bonus
Expiry Status
Term Remaining
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Waivers ExemptMcDavid, Connor
$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Trades
VGK
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel ($2,900,000 retained)
  2. Ellis, Colten
  3. Rosén, Calle
  4. Vorobyov, Ivan [Reserve List]
  5. 2024 5th round pick (STL)
Additional Details:
Meier 50% vs Buch - Read Descrip
Ibragimov - Contract not picked up by Devs but by Utica - Vorobyov
Scott Harrington - Depth - Rosen for cap reasons
G Zach Emond - Not picked up by NJD - Ellis
24 5th
STL
  1. Edstrom, David
  2. Hague, Nicolas
  3. Korczak, Kaedan
  4. 2024 1st round pick (VGK)
  5. 2025 2nd round pick (VGK)
  6. 2026 7th round pick (VGK)
Additional Details:
Zetterlund -> Hague +? (Zetterlund expiring RFA scoring at 2nd line rate. Hague little further along, probably a decent chance he's a #3/4 at this point)
Mukhamadullin -> Edstrom - (Muk drafted earlier in weaker draft. 20 vs 32OA for Edstrom
Andreas Johnsson (Dump) - No equivalent dump
Okhotiuk - Korczak (Pretty even after review)
23 1st - 24 1st =
24 conditional 2nd - cond 25 2nd =
24 7th - 26 7th - but due to circumstance
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$83,191,667$0$0$308,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
LW, RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
RFA - 3
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,200,000$5,200,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$8,800,000$8,800,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$4,900,000$4,900,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,850,000$2,850,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$766,667$766,667
G
UFA - 2
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 27, 2023 at 4:15 p.m.
#1
Good Opinion Haver
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If someone is trading for Buchnevich and getting him at half retained he should be fetching more than Meier IMO. Meier's a little younger and I think one could argue has a higher ceiling but getting a PPG player that typically has strong defensive metrics for two playoff runs and a full regular season at 2.9million should be coming with a high asset price. I also tend to think San Jose didn't do particularly well in that Meier trade.
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Nov. 27, 2023 at 4:20 p.m.
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
If someone is trading for Buchnevich and getting him at half retained he should be fetching more than Meier IMO. Meier's a little younger and I think one could argue has a higher ceiling but getting a PPG player that typically has strong defensive metrics for two playoff runs and a full regular season at 2.9million should be coming with a high asset price. I also tend to think San Jose didn't do particularly well in that Meier trade.


I tend to agree, but I also personally like this specific looking return for the outlook of the Blues.

Looking back on it at this point in time it doesn't look like SJ did terribly great. That being said, Meier didn't produce all that great in NJD the first initial season.

I'm not an expert on Vegas, but that being said something like this does fill a lot of holes for the Blues youth. But it also creates a gigantic hole on the front end for the team. Probably a rather irreplaceable one.
Nov. 27, 2023 at 4:23 p.m.
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This is likely not the package I would go for, but definitely waaay better than the other one.
Nov. 27, 2023 at 4:25 p.m.
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
If someone is trading for Buchnevich and getting him at half retained he should be fetching more than Meier IMO. Meier's a little younger and I think one could argue has a higher ceiling but getting a PPG player that typically has strong defensive metrics for two playoff runs and a full regular season at 2.9million should be coming with a high asset price. I also tend to think San Jose didn't do particularly well in that Meier trade.


I disagree on that.

Meier>Buch quite clearly imo.

meier was a rental + 8 years extension
buch is a rental +rental

Meier at 8x8.8 likely has more value around the league than 1 year of Buch at 2.9
Nov. 27, 2023 at 4:27 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
This is likely not the package I would go for, but definitely waaay better than the other one.


Do you mean the one that SJS received for Meier? I went through and it's about as close as I could actually get. The only indifference that could be had is Zetterlund vs. Hague. It's hard to have a real evaluation between the two and I would assume it's fairly even. Zetterlund was actually a pretty good player for New Jersey and has been decent for SJS given the circumstances.
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