Granlund TDL Discussion

Created by: yikes

Team: 2023-24 San Jose Sharks

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 14, 2023

Published: Dec. 14, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Left Handed

Original Team

Waivers Exempt

Right Handed

Position

Trade Clause

Max Perf. Bonus

Expiry Status

Term Remaining

McDavid, Connor

$12,500,000 ( Performance Bonus

$250,000)

NMC

UFA - 5

Description

Read the descriptions of the trades before referencing the actual trades - up for discussion not trades made as statements.

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST		YEARS	CAP HIT
Gulyayev, Mikhail		1	$800,000

Trades

SJS

Granlunds first 13 games as a Shark were rocky, not amazing play and his totals:
13 games
4 assists
0 goals
10 pointless games

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Grandlunds last 9 games, he’s looked phenomenal, his play starting improving right after the Grier locker room talk. It’s not just points it’s also how he looks. His totals:
9 games
15 points
5 multi point games (two 3 point games)
3 goals
1 pointless game

In 22 games Granlund has 19 points. He’s around (under tho) a 70 point pace. It Granlund is retained, @50%, he should return easily over a first+ at 2.5m aav for 1 more year (2 playoff runs).

Lars Eller (obviously a rounded player, not just points) had 16 points in 60 games. Returned a 2nd last TDL. Jordan Greenway had 7 points in 45 and returned OVER a 2nd.

Tyler Bertuzzi, had injury problems, was a UFA, and cost basically the same AAV as Granlund (but Granlund has 1 more year). Bertuzzi had 14 points in 30 games (obviously a different player). He received a first and fourth.

My guess is; I’d Granlund, let’s say reaches the TDL with the following Statline - which would have a slight reduction in his current performance/ pace included (to be safe):

Let’s say 50 games played (rested and needs some games for healing):
And let’s even reduce his points by a handful.

37 points in 50 games. 2 years/ 2 playoff runs @2.5m AAV. Plays center and wing, has shown speed and agility with some amazing play and puck work.

What teams are going to be willing to offer a first + prospect?
If you disagree sure but if all you say his “guy sucks” well his play suggests otherwise. So let’s discuss who and what?

COL

SJS

Gulyayev, Mikhail [Reserve List]
2024 1st round pick (COL)

Additional Details:

KHL won’t play till 2026

Not selecting any teams top 5 prospects.

Idk if the AV’s are going to be in the market to be big buyers, idk why just a gut feeling.

COL

Granlund 2.5m AAV x 2y

SJS

I like the NYR fit a lot. More then the AVs by a mile.
I think the Rags not only are going to be buyers, but they’re looking for a cup. The Metro is a gongshow (not in a positive way) and if they pull the Flyers they’re laughing to the 2nd round, basically a buy.

I’ve got 2 proposals for the Rangers.

NYR

Granlund 2.5m AAV x 2y

SJS

Sýkora, Adam
2024 2nd round pick (NYR)

Additional Details:

I think Grier would target Sykora, even take a discount. Let’s see how to make this work, a 1st and Sykora seems too costly, so a conditional 2nd to be a first if the Rangers make the SCF and Granlund players 50%?

NYR

Granlund 2.5m AAV x 2y

SJS

Goodrow, Barclay
2024 1st round pick (NYR)

Additional Details:

To be simple let’s keep the last trades framework. But now, let’s argue the Rangers want to move Goodrow, Granlund comes cheaper and better, and gives them a little $$$ to have more wiggle room in the offseason with resigning.
Now Goodrow never will be a waste in my eyes but financially he’s a burden if the Rangers also see they could use his term off the books. Now the Rangers need to add. Does this work better
Adam Sykora
*lottery protected 2024 first*
*Conditional 2024 2nd round pick (NYR) if the Rags make the ECF?*
Too much??

NYR

Granlund 2.5m AAV x 2y (50% retained)

SJS

COL

Gulyayev, Mikhail
2024 1st round pick (COL)

Additional Details:

I don’t think the AV’s want to bid with the Rangers. I think:

Goodrow
Sykora
Conditional 2nd
Protected first

Granlund 50% starts to make way more sense

SJS

Would they bid on Granlund?

VGK

SJS

Granlund also looks like a perfect fit here?
Would EDM try to make cap room?

EDM

Buyouts

Martin Jones: $2,916,667
Rūdolfs Balcers: $308,334

Retained Salary Transactions

Brent Burns: $2,720,000 (34%)
Erik Karlsson: $1,500,000 (13.04%)

Buried

Kevin Labanc: $3,575,000 ($4,725,000)
Radim Simek: $1,100,000 ($2,250,000)
Nikolai Knyzhov: $100,000 ($1,250,000)
Oskar Lindblom: $1,350,000 ($2,500,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$83,500,000	$82,014,168	$25,000	$1,145,000	$1,485,832

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Duclair, Anthony $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Granlund, Mikael $5,000,000$5,000,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Zetterlund, Fabian $1,450,000$1,450,000 RW RFA - 2
Eklund, William $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) LW RFA - 3	Hertl, Tomas $6,750,000$6,750,000 C NMC UFA - 7	Barabanov, Alexander $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 1	Kunin, Luke $2,750,000$2,750,000 RW, C RFA - 1	Bailey, Justin $775,000$775,000 RW UFA - 1
Goodrow, Barclay $3,641,667$3,641,667 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	MacDonald, Jacob $762,500$762,500 LD/RD UFA - 1	Zadina, Filip $1,100,000$1,100,000 RW, LW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Ferraro, Mario $3,250,000$3,250,000 LD UFA - 3	Burroughs, Kyle $1,100,000$1,100,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Kähkönen, Kaapo $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 1
Okhotiuk, Nikita $789,167$789,167 ($82,500$82K) LD RFA - 1	Rutta, Jan $2,750,000$2,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Blackwood, Mackenzie $2,350,000$2,350,000 G UFA - 2
Thrun, Henry $912,500$912,500 ($212,500$212K) LD RFA - 1	Addison, Calen $825,000$825,000 RD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Smith, Givani $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Vlasic, Marc-Édouard $7,000,000$7,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3
	Couture, Logan $8,000,000$8,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4
	Benning, Matthew $1,250,000$1,250,000 RD UFA - 3
	Sturm, Nico $2,000,000$2,000,000 C UFA - 2
	Emberson, Ty $775,000$775,000 RD RFA - 1
	Carpenter, Ryan $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 1

Top Comments

Dec. 14, 2023 at 3:23 p.m.

TJTwolf

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Easy no for the Avs at that price.

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Dec. 14, 2023 at 3:24 p.m.

DRW2025

Joined: May 2023

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He's probably worth a 2nd.

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Dec. 14, 2023 at 3:24 p.m.

Rags21

Joined: Aug. 2021

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I’d probably do the Goodrow trade. Maybe add another pick to try and get Barb/Duclair

Dec. 14, 2023 at 3:24 p.m.

yikes

EklundCelebriniSmith

Joined: Sep. 2019

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Quoting: TJTwolf

Easy no for the Avs at that price.

Yeah I stated in the post I don’t think the Avs are going to do anything major at TDL. They just seem more up in the air on what they’re shopping for

Dec. 14, 2023 at 3:25 p.m.

yikes

EklundCelebriniSmith

Joined: Sep. 2019

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Quoting: Rags21

I’d probably do the Goodrow trade. Maybe add another pick to try and get Barb/Duclair

I think SJS wants to keep Duke and the rangers don’t have many other picks to add to get Duke - felt too complicated without involving a quantity of picks/ another prospect.

Quoting: DRW2025

He's probably worth a 2nd.

Way worse players, less term, traded for more last year - so hard disagree if what I outlined happens with Granlund. Hes currently near a .90 pace and I reduced it to .73 to be modest, and removed more games of his totals for “injury/ healing time”. Bertuzzi had .50 and was a UFA for a first and fourth.

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SJS

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