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Does This Make Sense

Created by: Mr_Gardoki
Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 1, 2024
Published: Feb. 1, 2024
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$12,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000)
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The proposed deal below is not a finished deal. These are just the key players in the deal, so first:

1) Does this even make sense for the Senators to begin with? Graves has just been a poor fit with this team, but has a proven track record otherwise, so I get there's probably hesitancy for Sens fans.

2) If this makes sense for the Sens, without doing the Capfriendly-Overvalue-Shuffle, is 1-for-1 enough?

3) If not 1-for-1, what would need to be added? Off limits futures from the Pens: 1st, Pickering and Yager.
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2024
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2025
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2026
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20$83,500,000$80,254,342$0$0$3,245,658
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
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UFA - 2
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$2,450,000$2,450,000
C
UFA - 2
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$3,125,000$3,125,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
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UFA - 3
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$775,000$775,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 2
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,375,000$5,375,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA - 2

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Feb. 1 at 12:57 p.m.
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Ottawa would want RHD. They have Chabot and Sanderson signed long term in the top 4 on the left hand side.

Pittsburgh would have to add significantly.
Feb. 1 at 12:58 p.m.
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There's no amount of tweaking that would make a deal around these two work at all for Ottawa. Graves is a massive downgrade, on a straight up bad contract. It doesn't make Ottawa better, it doesn't address the imbalance of LD/RD on the blueline (the only reason you even consider moving Chychrun), they get older and they lose so much cap value. Complete nonstarter for Ottawa on a fundamental level.
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Feb. 1 at 12:59 p.m.
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Ottawa would want RHD. They have Chabot and Sanderson signed long term in the top 4 on the left hand side.

Pittsburgh would have to add significantly.


I don't think Pittsburgh could add enough to make it make sense
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Feb. 1 at 1:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Claesson4Norris
There's no amount of tweaking that would make a deal around these two work at all for Ottawa. Graves is a massive downgrade, on a straight up bad contract. It doesn't make Ottawa better, it doesn't address the imbalance of LD/RD on the blueline (the only reason you even consider moving Chychrun), they get older and they lose so much cap value. Complete nonstarter for Ottawa on a fundamental level.


My line of thought is that Graves is the style of dman they're missing and with the reports that OTT may be moving Chychrun, it might be a match, but I can understand why it may not make sense.
Feb. 1 at 1:02 p.m.
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Ottawa would want RHD. They have Chabot and Sanderson signed long term in the top 4 on the left hand side.

Pittsburgh would have to add significantly.


Fair enough.
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