Quoting: Propeller09
The only deal that is even close to realistic is the Condon deal.
Glass is the reason Karlsson wasn't dealt at the deadline. They are not giving him up, especially for only one guaranteed year. If they were going to do it, they would have done it with last years run.
I don't see any world in which you get Bennett for Pageau. That would have to be at least a 3rd rd pick, but probably a 2nd. Bennett is still young...
I don't think you are getting anything for Hoffman at this point. Too many red flag2 & Claesson is JAG. A team might take a flyer with a 2nd or 3rd pick, but everyone knows the situation. He needs to go, and there is a lot of baggage. This brings me back to Karlsson - It also brings down his trade value because, realistically they both need to go and if it's true- it makes Hoffman very unappealing (highly likely) . If it's not true (Highly doubtful) than Karlsson looks bad. Either way it's not good for the Sens.
Quoting: Propeller09
The only deal that is even close to realistic is the Condon deal.
Glass is the reason Karlsson wasn't dealt at the deadline. They are not giving him up, especially for only one guaranteed year. If they were going to do it, they would have done it with last years run.
I don't see any world in which you get Bennett for Pageau. That would have to be at least a 3rd rd pick, but probably a 2nd. Bennett is still young...
I don't think you are getting anything for Hoffman at this point. Too many red flag2 & Claesson is JAG. A team might take a flyer with a 2nd or 3rd pick, but everyone knows the situation. He needs to go, and there is a lot of baggage. This brings me back to Karlsson - It also brings down his trade value because, realistically they both need to go and if it's true- it makes Hoffman very unappealing (highly likely) . If it's not true (Highly doubtful) than Karlsson looks bad. Either way it's not good for the Sens.
Quoting: Propeller09
The only deal that is even close to realistic is the Condon deal.
Glass is the reason Karlsson wasn't dealt at the deadline. They are not giving him up, especially for only one guaranteed year. If they were going to do it, they would have done it with last years run.
I don't see any world in which you get Bennett for Pageau. That would have to be at least a 3rd rd pick, but probably a 2nd. Bennett is still young...
I don't think you are getting anything for Hoffman at this point. Too many red flag2 & Claesson is JAG. A team might take a flyer with a 2nd or 3rd pick, but everyone knows the situation. He needs to go, and there is a lot of baggage. This brings me back to Karlsson - It also brings down his trade value because, realistically they both need to go and if it's true- it makes Hoffman very unappealing (highly likely) . If it's not true (Highly doubtful) than Karlsson looks bad. Either way it's not good for the Sens.
Bennett trade may be a stretch, but he was also on the outside looking in for quite a while this season and last for under-performance. Although he seemed to find his groove a bit more when Jankowski jumped into the lineup full time, I think it's fair to say Pageau has been slightly better over the past two seasons, and he's only 25.
I don't think the Karlsson trade is that far off. Vegas has come back asking for Karlsson once again, and this trade seems very close to what the rumours are reported to include. Keep in mind Karlsson is arguably the best defenceman on the planet. A team isn't going to give up that much for him if they don't think they have a shot at re-signing him, but I think a lot of them do. This guy has a Norris trophy, is in the prime of his career, and has a year left at an extremely affordable price. If I'm Ottawa, I'm not taking anything less than a first round pick and a top prospect, plus a mid-range prospect for that.
Agreed that Ottawa would likely have to give up a lot to get that first rounder back from Colorado next year, but once again I don't see this as being that far off. Think about the top line in COL of MacKinnon, Rantanen and Hoffman... I would be pretty enticed if I were the Avalanche. Yes, Hoffman's value took a hit when the recent story came out, but he's scored 20 goals in four consecutive years and is in the prime of his career. If Ottawa has to sweeten the deal a bit, that can be done. Ottawa has plenty of chips to play to try to recoup that pick.