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Pen's cap nightmare 2016-2017

Created by: Hibbits
Team: 2016-17 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 16, 2016
Published: Jan. 16, 2016
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Pens forced to match offer sheet for Maatta at 5 million.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$5,000,000
Retained Salary Transactions
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
15$71,400,000$64,856,250$0$257,500$6,543,750
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$3,850,000$3,850,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 9
$6,800,000$6,800,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
$1,875,000$1,875,000
LW
UFA - 3
$9,500,000$9,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 6
$4,250,000$4,250,000
RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$667,500$667,500 (Performance Bonus$257,500$258K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 6
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 6
$5,750,000$5,750,000
G
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
$2,100,000$2,100,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$3,300,000$3,300,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Jan. 16, 2016 at 5:02 p.m.
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Hibbs, you are absolutely right, and other teams are the same situation. Even if the cap goes up, it will mean the eight remaining players will have to average about $ 800,000 each. So, whoever they bring it doesn't look like a championship or even near championship team.
Jan. 16, 2016 at 5:15 p.m.
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1. Cap will go up at least 2 million.
2. Most of those remaining spots should be filled by ELCs anyway (Pouliot, Sprong, Sheary, Murray, Sundqvist, Simon)

Really not a huge concern.
Jan. 16, 2016 at 5:54 p.m.
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Edited Jan. 16, 2016 at 6:02 p.m.
Quoting: Schlegel
1. Cap will go up at least 2 million.
2. Most of those remaining spots should be filled by ELCs anyway (Pouliot, Sprong, Sheary, Murray, Sundqvist, Simon)

Really not a huge concern.


First, who says the cap will go up? Russia and Canada's currency are in the shitter, those are large markets for the NHL. It may raise for inflation, but 2 million is really optimistic.

And second, then how does the team above differ any from the team we have on the ice now? The non-playoff team. All of those players are a year older and a year slower. And you are depending on literally the worst prospect pool in hockey to fill 6 or 7 gaps?

So glad you aren't concerned. Good for you.
Jan. 16, 2016 at 6:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Schlegel
1. Cap will go up at least 2 million.
2. Most of those remaining spots should be filled by ELCs anyway (Pouliot, Sprong, Sheary, Murray, Sundqvist, Simon)

Really not a huge concern.


Oh. And that is also IF they are even still around. Anyone really believe that Rutherford won't trade what prospects we have for another ill-advised, pipe dream of a playoff push?

History says he does. So there is also that.
Jan. 16, 2016 at 11:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Hibbits
Quoting: Schlegel
1. Cap will go up at least 2 million.
2. Most of those remaining spots should be filled by ELCs anyway (Pouliot, Sprong, Sheary, Murray, Sundqvist, Simon)

Really not a huge concern.


First, who says the cap will go up? Russia and Canada's currency are in the shitter, those are large markets for the NHL. It may raise for inflation, but 2 million is really optimistic.

And second, then how does the team above differ any from the team we have on the ice now? The non-playoff team. All of those players are a year older and a year slower. And you are depending on literally the worst prospect pool in hockey to fill 6 or 7 gaps?

So glad you aren't concerned. Good for you.


Not 100% but I believe the CBA mandates a minimum 5% increase.

That "worst prospect pool" has one of the best records in the AHL (and that team doesn't even have Sprong). If you're so worried about how old most of our team is, shouldn't you want some of those young, fast players on the roster??

Say what you will about GMJR, but he assembled a team that should be a cup contender this year. It's not his fault that at different times Crosby/Malkin/Kessel/Horny/Kunitz/Bonino/Perron have not lived up to their typical production.
Jan. 16, 2016 at 11:33 p.m.
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this hibbits guy is a real dick. always tryna out smart everyone bc he's never wrong
Jan. 17, 2016 at 12:47 a.m.
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Edited Jan. 17, 2016 at 1:00 a.m.
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Quoting: Schlegel
1. Cap will go up at least 2 million.
2. Most of those remaining spots should be filled by ELCs anyway (Pouliot, Sprong, Sheary, Murray, Sundqvist, Simon)

Really not a huge concern.


First, who says the cap will go up? Russia and Canada's currency are in the shitter, those are large markets for the NHL. It may raise for inflation, but 2 million is really optimistic.

And second, then how does the team above differ any from the team we have on the ice now? The non-playoff team. All of those players are a year older and a year slower. And you are depending on literally the worst prospect pool in hockey to fill 6 or 7 gaps?

So glad you aren't concerned. Good for you.


Not 100% but I believe the CBA mandates a minimum 5% increase.

That "worst prospect pool" has one of the best records in the AHL (and that team doesn't even have Sprong). If you're so worried about how old most of our team is, shouldn't you want some of those young, fast players on the roster??

Say what you will about GMJR, but he assembled a team that should be a cup contender this year. It's not his fault that at different times Crosby/Malkin/Kessel/Horny/Kunitz/Bonino/Perron have not lived up to their typical production.

Um... that's the AHL. Rarely does a team have their top prospects playing AHL hockey, nor does AHL hockey and the typical goonery that goes on translates to the NHL. Usually the kid opts to stay in their junior league and GOOD prospects are usually NHL ready coming out of juniors. For instance, Sprong does not play in Wilkes Barre and neither did Kappy and Sundqvist last year. And often players are still considered prospects even if they are playing in the NHL (like Despres/Pouliot were).

Just go google power rankings for prospect pools in the NHL. We are at the bottom of every list. Highest I've seen was 20 but that was before trading Kapanen and Harrington.

But generally yes, we need to get younger. We don't have the talent in our system to do it yet.
Jan. 17, 2016 at 1:04 a.m.
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this hibbits guy is a real dick. always tryna out smart everyone bc he's never wrong

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Jan. 18, 2016 at 6:21 p.m.
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$5,000,000 for Matta is really high, especially for a guy who missed 1/3 of his playing time in the NHL so far due to injury. Do you really think any team would risk $5 million in cap space, as well as their first and third round picks, for Maata?

He's a great player, great top 4 D, but he should get a 2 year bridge deal in the 3-4 million range.
 
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