If they trade EK they want picks and prospects out the ass, and they won't want to take needless cap bk. also what are you talking about calling Hoffman and EK a cap dump???

this might be the worst Karlsson trade I've ever seen.

(Cap Dump) their combined salary is over 11.5 million dollars. Compared to paying hagelin, jarry, and Cole around 4 million combined. That's 7.5 million gained in cap space. Plenty of money to resign their players, especially stone, who will get a lot. Bleuger and jarry and two firsts, those sound like 4 good prospects to me.

Karlsson ( two top roster players, high end prospect, a 1st plus another pick.)
Hoffman ( roster player, top prospect, 1st round pick)

Those are probably the asking prices and I don't see you giving up the players they're asking for.

Jarry played what 19 NHL games? I doubt they see him as their starter right now.
Blueger is 23 and still in the AHL wouldn't really call him high end
And 2 late 1st picks.

Ottawa can do better

Calling Karlsson and Hoffman cap dumps

That Erik Karlsson+Hoffman is a royal It would at least take Maatta going the other way as well no way that garbage package lands both Karlsson and Hoffman.

(Cap Dump) their combined salary is over 11.5 million dollars. Compared to paying hagelin, jarry, and Cole around 4 million combined. That's 7.5 million gained in cap space. Plenty of money to resign their players, especially stone, who will get a lot. Bleuger and jarry and two firsts, those sound like 4 good prospects to me. It doesnt mean theyre bad players.

You do realize jarry has been successful in every league hes played in, including the NHL. He was the top rated goalie in his draft too. And hes still on his ELC which means hes cheaper than the goalies ottawa has. Which would actually allow this trade to open up even more than 7.5 million in cap space once they send down condon. Of course bleuger isnt going to crack the Pens line up. Pens are stacked. Doesnt mean hes a bad prospect. Hes been great at every level and hes a second round pickn, who cares how old he is, marchessault was like 28 when he came into the NHL with tons of production. 1sts are 1sts. You know who was a late 1st? Brock Boeser.

Actually he was 3rd behind Eric Comrie and Zach Fucale.
Also Karlsson and Hoffman aren't cap dumps. They're elite players. Cap dump would be Hagelin . Sure Boeser was drafted 23rd. What are the chances of late 1st round picks that turn out like him? Not many. Also Marchessault put up mull toole 60 pt seasons in the AHL. Not saying Bleuger won't be good but he's not comparable to Marchessault.

Ottawa can get so much more for just karlsson

That depends on which scout ranking youre looking at. And (Cap Dump) their combined salary is over 11.5 million dollars. Compared to paying hagelin, jarry, and Cole around 4 million combined. That's 7.5 million gained in cap space. Plenty of money to resign their players, especially stone, who will get a lot. Bleuger and jarry and two firsts, those sound like 4 good prospects to me. It doesnt mean theyre bad players.