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Created by: CanEHdian04
Initial Creation Date: Apr 30, 2018
Published: Apr 30, 2018 at 4:56
Team: 2018-19 Ottawa Senators
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Stone, Mark8$7,000,000
Ceci, Cody3$3,000,000
Claesson, Fredrik3$1,100,000
Pokka, Ville3$925,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Wideman, Chris3$1,400,000
DiDomenico, Chris3$1,250,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Tkachuk, Brady3$925,000
Buyouts
  • Marián Gáborík: $1,502,778
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Dion Phaneuf: $1,750,000 (25%)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2019
OTT
PIT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
CGY
2020
OTT
OTT
OTT
CBJ
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
2021
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
OTT
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$80,000,000$65,523,610$0$2,102,500$14,476,390
Left WingCenterRight Wing
Hoffman, Mike
$5,187,500
RW, LW
NTC
UFA - 2
Duchene, Matt
$6,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Dzingel, Ryan
$1,800,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
Tkachuk, Brady
$925,000
White, Colin
$925,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Stone, Mark
$7,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
Chlapik, Filip
$728,333
C
RFA - 2
Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
$3,100,000
C
UFA - 2
Ryan, Bobby
$7,250,000
RW, LW
NMC NTC
UFA - 4
Pyatt, Tom
$1,100,000
C
UFA - 1
Smith, Zack
$3,250,000
LW, C
NTC
UFA - 3
DiDomenico, Chris
$1,250,000
C, RW
UFA
Formenton, Alex
$753,333
LW
RFA - 4
Brown, Logan
$863,333
C
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Chabot, Thomas
$863,333
LD
UFA - 2
Karlsson, Erik
$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 1
Anderson, Craig
$4,750,000
G
NTC
UFA - 2
Claesson, Fredrik
$1,100,000
LD
UFA - 1
Ceci, Cody
$3,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
Condon, Mike
$2,400,000
G
UFA - 2
Borowiecki, Mark
$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 2
Wideman, Chris
$1,400,000
RD
UFA - 1
Wolanin, Christian
$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
MacArthur, Clarke
$4,650,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2

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Apr 30, 2018 at 6:25
#1
Joined: Mar 2018
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Don't by out gaborik until the end of next season when the sens are actually a good team
Take on a few more bad contracts with no more than after the 2019-20 season left for picks and retain some of those salaries and send for more picks
This teams future looks bright
Apr 30, 2018 at 6:35
#2
Joined: Nov 2017
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I don’t understand this. 2 major ufa’s to be with incompetent owner / gm doesn’t seem like a good mix. Why would ek and Duchene want to resign? The city? Almost every city has something nice about it.

I’m sure they’ll say “I want to stay” because they aren’t dinks who will ruin their trade value, but do they actually want to be back?

Goaltending is practically unbearable moving forward and that’s the single most important position in hockey.
Apr 30, 2018 at 7:55
#3
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CanEHian04
Joined: Jun 2017
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Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
I don’t understand this. 2 major ufa’s to be with incompetent owner / gm doesn’t seem like a good mix. Why would ek and Duchene want to resign? The city? Almost every city has something nice about it.

I’m sure they’ll say “I want to stay” because they aren’t dinks who will ruin their trade value, but do they actually want to be back?

Goaltending is practically unbearable moving forward and that’s the single most important position in hockey.


Just so i get this right are you're implying it's unrealistic because I haven't traded Karlsson and Duchene?

I see the problem, the team looks pretty grim I agree. This is just how I see next season's roster looking baring any blockbuster moves. As a resident of the city I cannot express to you how essential it is to keep Erik Karlsson. He is the only player the fans care about other than Stone, but in terms of popularity it's not even close. Duchene is an interesting situation. Me and many other weren't happy with how much we lost in that trade, but in the end we got a pretty damn good player. This guy is the best option we have at number 1 center, and he is expected to fill in the shoes of Kyle Turris. If the Senators were to trade him, the fans would be infuriated because you got rid of Turris for a guy that didn't even last a year.

Goaltending is sketchy, but I think Ottawa will play it by ear. Historically, Anderson has always had a down year followed by an up year. Its not reasonable to expect that trend on continuing, but there aren't many other options given the shiny extension Dorion signed him to this year and next. If Anderson can bounce back, the team is in a lot better shape than last year. The blue line also needs a blue line. If Karlsson can return to form offensively and defensively paired with the bounce back year from Anderson Ottawa will be much better at keeping the puck out of their net. Gustavsson is in the system and hopefully develops into a starter within the next 3 or 4 years. Chabot will also continue to develop, as well as Wolanin and Claesson. Boro brings a physical presence and a lot of character. Wideman missed all but 16 games last season. Throughout those 16 games he played he scored 3 goals and 5 assists for 8 points. Ceci is terrible, but they're never going to trade that damn pylon. The blueline was really bad last season, but it can get better this year, and if it does, Karlsson would be much more enticed to stay.

Ottawa actually scored more goals/game last season than they did in 16/17. The first line needs not introduction but I will throw out there Dzingle scored 23 goals and 43 points in this most recent season. White scored 6 points in 21 games too. If White and Dzingle consider to get better, the top 6 gets a real boost. If White isn't ready to play 2nd line C, there is going to be a big problem, because the thought of Pageau in that role is chilling. Our 4th overall pick this year has an asterix. If we somehow land Zadina, that would be stellar. Odds are we get Tkachuk, which is still great. The problem is Tkachuk will probably want to finish his education at Boston U, delaying some offensive upgrades for the top 6. Pageau as the 3rd line C, sure. Chlapik on the third line I'm also comfortable with. The bottom 6 is rather untouched. Still pretty bad, but I really liked Didi while he played here so bringing him back would be stellar. They're never gonna trade Smith even though I can't stand him.

As I see it, it is imperative Ottawa keeps both of them. The team can get better next season, and I find it very unlikely Ottawa would make any big splashes to try and accommodate these players, not really how they do things. While I understand this team isn't very enticing, but it's what I see the Sens being going forward. The moves I would make to fix it are a different armchair-gm team.
Apr 30, 2018 at 9:16
#4
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 972
Likes: 108
Quoting: CanEHdian04
Just so i get this right are you're implying it's unrealistic because I haven't traded Karlsson and Duchene?

I see the problem, the team looks pretty grim I agree. This is just how I see next season's roster looking baring any blockbuster moves. As a resident of the city I cannot express to you how essential it is to keep Erik Karlsson. He is the only player the fans care about other than Stone, but in terms of popularity it's not even close. Duchene is an interesting situation. Me and many other weren't happy with how much we lost in that trade, but in the end we got a pretty damn good player. This guy is the best option we have at number 1 center, and he is expected to fill in the shoes of Kyle Turris. If the Senators were to trade him, the fans would be infuriated because you got rid of Turris for a guy that didn't even last a year.

Goaltending is sketchy, but I think Ottawa will play it by ear. Historically, Anderson has always had a down year followed by an up year. Its not reasonable to expect that trend on continuing, but there aren't many other options given the shiny extension Dorion signed him to this year and next. If Anderson can bounce back, the team is in a lot better shape than last year. The blue line also needs a blue line. If Karlsson can return to form offensively and defensively paired with the bounce back year from Anderson Ottawa will be much better at keeping the puck out of their net. Gustavsson is in the system and hopefully develops into a starter within the next 3 or 4 years. Chabot will also continue to develop, as well as Wolanin and Claesson. Boro brings a physical presence and a lot of character. Wideman missed all but 16 games last season. Throughout those 16 games he played he scored 3 goals and 5 assists for 8 points. Ceci is terrible, but they're never going to trade that damn pylon. The blueline was really bad last season, but it can get better this year, and if it does, Karlsson would be much more enticed to stay.

Ottawa actually scored more goals/game last season than they did in 16/17. The first line needs not introduction but I will throw out there Dzingle scored 23 goals and 43 points in this most recent season. White scored 6 points in 21 games too. If White and Dzingle consider to get better, the top 6 gets a real boost. If White isn't ready to play 2nd line C, there is going to be a big problem, because the thought of Pageau in that role is chilling. Our 4th overall pick this year has an asterix. If we somehow land Zadina, that would be stellar. Odds are we get Tkachuk, which is still great. The problem is Tkachuk will probably want to finish his education at Boston U, delaying some offensive upgrades for the top 6. Pageau as the 3rd line C, sure. Chlapik on the third line I'm also comfortable with. The bottom 6 is rather untouched. Still pretty bad, but I really liked Didi while he played here so bringing him back would be stellar. They're never gonna trade Smith even though I can't stand him.

As I see it, it is imperative Ottawa keeps both of them. The team can get better next season, and I find it very unlikely Ottawa would make any big splashes to try and accommodate these players, not really how they do things. While I understand this team isn't very enticing, but it's what I see the Sens being going forward. The moves I would make to fix it are a different armchair-gm team.


You trolled this post with how much you have written, i’m Not going to read a documentary from someone with no credentials...
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May 1, 2018 at 12:50
#5
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Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
I don’t understand this. 2 major ufa’s to be with incompetent owner / gm doesn’t seem like a good mix. Why would ek and Duchene want to resign? The city? Almost every city has something nice about it.

I’m sure they’ll say “I want to stay” because they aren’t dinks who will ruin their trade value, but do they actually want to be back?

Goaltending is practically unbearable moving forward and that’s the single most important position in hockey.


Karlsson spends his summers in Ottawa and actually married a local girl (whose entire family is based here in Ottawa). He wants to stay but is not willing to take a Hometown Discount.

Duchene has always wanted to play for a Canadian team. He also has a cottage in his hometown about 2 hour north of Ottawa. And also made it clear that he wants to stay.

It's literately all in Melnyk's hand/wallet.
May 1, 2018 at 12:56
#6
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Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
You trolled this post with how much you have written, i’m Not going to read a documentary from someone with no credentials...


Duchene is so much better than Turris. He's a true #1 Centre. I have no issues with that trade except if the 2019 first round pick ends up in the top 3 (Which I doubt). What I like about the trade is that we were able to keep all our top prospects. I am strong believer that the winner of a trade is the team that gets the best player.
May 1, 2018 at 1:40
#7
Thread Starter
CanEHian04
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 158
Likes: 10
Quoting: FryesLeapMaine
You trolled this post with how much you have written, i’m Not going to read a documentary from someone with no credentials...


Hey man, you read whatever you want to read, I'm just providing insight into my thinking behind it. You stated you didn't understand and asked a me question. Unfortunately neither of things you asked about could be answered in one sentence.
 
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