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Karl to Philly

Created by: phil26
Team: 2018-19 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 22, 2018
Published: Jun. 22, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Just gauging what Flyers fans think
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$8,000,000
2$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,100,000
Trades
OTT
  1. Elliott, Brian
  2. Rubtsov, German
  3. Sanheim, Travis
  4. Simmonds, Wayne
  5. 2019 1st round pick (PHI)
  6. 2020 1st round pick (PHI)
Additional Details:
2020 Pick swap conditional on Karlsson signing a contract extension
PHI
  1. Anderson, Craig
  2. Karlsson, Erik
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
2020 Pick's swap if Karl signs extension
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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Logo of the PHI
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Logo of the SJS
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$79,500,000$65,234,165$0$1,470,000$14,265,835
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$3,975,000$3,975,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
$8,000,000$8,000,000
RW
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$710,000$710K)
C, LW
RFA - 3
$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 1
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$7,250,000$7,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
$900,000$900,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$3,100,000$3,100,000
C
UFA - 2
$1,100,000$1,100,000
C
UFA - 1
$650,000$650,000
LW
UFA - 1
$894,166$894,166
C
UFA - 3
$4,875,000$4,875,000
RW
UFA - 3
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$360,000$360K)
LD
UFA - 2
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 2
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$2,400,000$2,400,000
G
UFA - 2
$925,000$925,000
LD
UFA - 1
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
UFA - 1
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$4,650,000$4,650,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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Jun. 22, 2018 at 8:54 a.m.
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If this deal were to happen the Flyers have to have a negotiated extension with Karlsson. So I take the extension as a guaranteed done when analyzing the deal.

So my understanding is the Flyers and Senators swap 1st rd picks in 2020 because of the extension. So Ottawa gets the Flyers pick in 2020 and the Flyers get Ottawa's in 2020?

If that's the case, the Flyers are trading 2019 1st rd pick, Rubstov, Simmonds, and Sanheim for Karlsson and a 3rd. Elliott is being traded for Anderson. Both teams are gambling on having a better 2020 pick and as of right now I'd say the Flyers are winning on the pick swap in 2020. Based on my understanding of this trade, I'd have to say that's a deal.
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Jun. 22, 2018 at 9:08 a.m.
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Quoting: Dmh1055
If this deal were to happen the Flyers have to have a negotiated extension with Karlsson. So I take the extension as a guaranteed done when analyzing the deal.

So my understanding is the Flyers and Senators swap 1st rd picks in 2020 because of the extension. So Ottawa gets the Flyers pick in 2020 and the Flyers get Ottawa's in 2020?

If that's the case, the Flyers are trading 2019 1st rd pick, Rubstov, Simmonds, and Sanheim for Karlsson and a 3rd. Elliott is being traded for Anderson. Both teams are gambling on having a better 2020 pick and as of right now I'd say the Flyers are winning on the pick swap in 2020. Based on my understanding of this trade, I'd have to say that's a deal.


I dont mind this trade. But they should find a stop gap 2Nd line centre instead of throwing Logan brown to the wolves. Let him come up through the ranks instead of walking on to 2Nd line
Jun. 22, 2018 at 9:45 a.m.
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man this team is gonna struggle to find goals next season even if they make smart moves w EK... on the other side Karlsson-Prov-Ghost woooowee thats some fire power from the backend
Jun. 22, 2018 at 4:46 p.m.
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I dont mind this trade. But they should find a stop gap 2Nd line centre instead of throwing Logan brown to the wolves. Let him come up through the ranks instead of walking on to 2Nd line


Ideally. But considering the budget (68 M$ last year) and youth movement (Brassard just got trade for Gustavsson, the 22nd OA pick and a 3rd), they might have to. The relative success of the team next season (aka not give a high pick to Colorado) will depend heavily on the development of young players like Thomas Chabot, Logan Brown, Colin White, Filip Chlapik and maybe even Drake Batherson, Alex Formenton, Christian Wolanin and Christian Jaros.If they are half as good as they can be, then the team will be in a much better position than people think.

If they take the rebuild route and trade Karlsson for futures, then they should also forfeit their 4th OA pick this year and take more time to develop young players (and not win too much) to be in the lottery next draft.

This proposal accomplishes a bit of both which I don't necessarily want IF they have to trade Karlsson.

Elliott for Anderson swap is ok because they would save significant salary (3.0 vs 5.5)

Sanheim is a good young D-man with upside
Simmonds is UFA to be, would need an extension. Although I'm not sure it's the best idea because he is getting slow for the new NHL.
Rubtsov is a good prospect
2019 1st round pick (PHI) : should be quite late.
2020 1st round pick (PHI) : should be quite late


Not sure that'd be the package I would be looking for but interesting nonetheless.
 
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