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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>I like your idea of Hamonic, hes a solid stay at home veteran, who can play physical and is a good leader, he'd give a deep defense even more depth.
Not too sure about Giroux going to 3rd line and acquisition of Athanasiou seems a step too far, putting JVR and Patrick on 4th line where they'll just lose more value/confidence. I don't think we look that way, not with frost probably coming up. I think if we acquire another veteran dman, blocking zAMULA for this year, then we probably don't block frost or another rookie forward from coming up.</div></div>
Giroux at 3rd line center is mostly because of the uncertainty of Patrick. In all reality, Patrick should be the 3rd line center. If that happens, Giroux slides to 3rd line LW, Patrick to 3C, and Laughton to 4th line center. I don't see where JVR moves other than 4th line here with that top 9 whether AA is signed or not. NAK would just be the 3rd line Right Wing with the 4th line RW open to Raffl or a young player.
Patrick was out all of last year so just playing should be the confidence booster he needs. JVR is a veteran and his confidence is not of concern. He's a good scorer when he's hot but not much of an impact on the game otherwise. He doesn't drive play to create chances often enough and is more of a defensive liability than anything else. He's a big body who still needs to learn to impose his will. He skates well and should be much more impactful in all areas of the ice than he is. This team needs JVR to make a Keith Primeau type transition to his game to see more ice time and I don't think that is part of JVR's personal makeup to do.
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sk540</b></div><div>It's not easy to obtain but we have pieces in place, it would only take another piece or two to do what I'm talking about. It's not like we're starting at zero here with our offense.
You're also banking and presuming a lot with Patrick (who knows if he'll even play), Frost (who knows if they think he's ready), and Lindblom (yes seemed to be turning a corner as a true goal scorer and PP threat, but who knows what happens when he returns, what if he falls behind? I hope he doesn't as much as anyone but none of these you can say 100% will happen), all filling in important spots. Even Patrick at 4C, you see the need to really be able to roll four lines so if it's a Bunnaman or Laczynski, what does that do for your lineup?
The fact that Simmonds doesn't block anyone is irrelevant, with a flat cap space you can't waste a million dollars on a player that you have plenty of, it just doesn't make sense in the cap situation we currently are in. We're up against the cap as it is and I would rather have Pitlick than Simmonds at this point, and we're most likely gonna have to let Pitlick walk. So no its not just about blocking Allison, it's about spending much needed money on a redundancy
Trading Ghost? OK fine, I get it, but bringing on a 5/6 dman at almost a 4 million cap space, is also a luxury we can't afford. My best bet at our third pairing next year will be Hagg/Ghost - Friedman, whichever of Hagg or Ghost they choose to keep, I don't see them both coming back, especially if Braun signs for a smaller 1 year deal, but I see them letting Braun go.</div></div>
The team is getting to a point where they need to have some faith that Patrick can be healthy and return. If he's healthy he's the 3C and they'd be hard pressed to find one with his talent level for that cap price. Since What/Ifs are always a part of the offseason, I would counter the Flyers are prepared for a scenario where Frost and Patrick are not ready or unavailable. The Flyers have 2 natural centers in Giroux and Laughton playing the wing. In the event 1 or both needs to move to center the Flyers have that ability. The team also has Raffl as a spare forward to enter the lineup on the wing. The Flyers have other youth options for 4th line center like Bunnaman or Rubstov as well.
I don't see Simmonds as a redundancy but as an actual need. If you watched the team play in the playoffs they had a real lack of net presence and layering to help shots get through from the point on the power play. Simmonds is an instant improvement in that regard. Pitlick is a nice player but as a UFA I suspect he'll be paid closer to $2 million per season which is tough number to give for a 4th liner PK specialist when the Flyers have many players who fill that role.
As far as having a "luxury" 5/6 defenseman, you have to look beyond this 1 season. Niskanen probably won't be back. Miller gives the Flyers a viable #4 RD at a reasonable cost in the 2nd year of his deal. The Flyers will have to sign Carter Hart after the 20-21 season.