Replace Krug with McAvoy and its a deal.

No no no no no no, do not do Montreal that favor. Don’t get me wrong Weber’s a great dman but that contracts a death trap.

LOL....Just because Bergevin is a dope who traded a stud defenseman doesn't mean the Bruins are going to help him out. Not going to happen. This whole deal isn't going to happen.

This lineup is a mess. McAvoy on the Left? Carlo on the Left? McQuaid 2nd pairing? Acciari 3rd line? Do you people know what you're doing at all? So bad.

I just wanted feed back on the trade. I read Sweeney is shopping Krug and Krejci and thought Weber would be perfect fit if Tavares were to sign with Boston. The line up I should have just not done anything.

Weber is and will be better than McAvoy for the next 2-3 years. Weber is still a top 5 defenseman in the league and you're not getting him in a trade for peanuts.

The cap is going up every year so 7.8 doesnt look too bad anymore. At 50% retained thats 3.9m for a top 5 defenseman in the league. Montreal could also take back one of the Bruin's absolutely bone headed contracts like Backes or McQuaid

Montreal isn't even on John Tavares' radar. That's really all that matters.

This post has him signing with Boston, What does Montreal have to do with it? I read Sweeney is shopping both Krejci and Krug and if Boston could get Weber along with Tavares, I thought the team would be a cup favorite.

I was replying to @Meeces who is clearly a Habs fan and just bitter about Tavares having zero interest in Montreal while this whole year past, Habs fans have been wetting themselves at the thought of Tavares coming to Montreal.

DUH!! I am an idiot!!! what do you think of this idea. Upgrade at center and defense.

At least we know why Montreal does what it does.

Backes contract, not so good, but really not that horrible. He can be moved. He wasn't great his first year, but he was actually pretty good last year especially when you consider what he went through. If you can get 20/20 out of him for another year or two along with his leadership, it's an overpayment, but it's not the end of the world.

McQuaid's deal is fine. A) he is off the books at the end of this year, so... it really doesn't matter and hasn't hurt them one bit. Veteran NHL dmen get paid more than it seems like they should. He should probably be around 2m, but again, that 750K isn't going to hurt them. He is the perfect veteran 6th or 7th Dman. He is good on the PP and tough as nails.

You are paying Karl Alzner 4.62m and he is just about the same player. Sorry. Alzner is a little better, but still at best a 5th or 6th dman. You have this sloth for four more years. FOUR. ugg.
You are also paying David Schlemko 2.1m who again is very similar to mcquaid, although somehow he is less durable than McQuaid. One guy is a career +60 and one guys is a career +10. two more years. LOL.
Shea Weber is not one of the best dmen in the league anymore. He is not. He is too big and too slow. He is good, don't get me wrong, but the game is about skating and moving the puck now. Chara is still good, but not one of the best in the league. He is also signed for 8 more years at almost 8m. A) I don't see Weber's body type holding up at 40. I just don't. Big bulky guys don't last, especially with the way he plays. Big guys who are already a little slow - it's not a good sign that they are tearing tendons.

You are also paying a goalie 10.5m a year. WHAT?!?!?! Personally I think he is the best goalie in the league, but he was awful last year. Awful. 3.11GAA and .900 save%. All this with one of the best Dmen in the league, right? This should worry you. Especially to this in a Claude Julien system.

Weber is one of the worst contracts in Hockey. Right next to Seabrook. 3 years from now Weber will be pretty similar to Chara for the last couple. Chara will have made about 16m over the last three (Including this year) Weber will make that 24 in that same time period, and then 8m a year for 8 more years. YIKES!

While we are pointing out bad contract. how about shaw. 4 more years at 4m. Ouch.

Remember that time John Tavares wouldn't even take a meeting with your abysmal team?

No. he is not even close to top 5
Doughty, Hedman, Josi, Karlsson, Burns, Klingberg, Jones, Pietrangelo, Suter, Ekblad, Subban, Provorov - that's without even trying.

Yup

Well...quite honestly, I'm not a fan of your moves.

You have the most bitter rivalry in the NHL consummating a trade when the two teams haven't traded since 2001. Furthermore, that 2001 trade was a minor roster move, where your trade here is franchise altering. I couldn't, in a million years, see it ever happening. I also couldn't see Krejci waiving his NMC to go to Montreal when he's been on the Bruins side of the rivalry for his entire career.

So yes, would the move be considered an upgrade on defense? Sure. But it is just so unrealistic that it doesn't really merit much consideration from my end.

It did make me chuckle though, so there you go.

K

1.Hedman 2. Karlsson 3. Doughty 4. Pietrangelo 5. Weber

All of the rest will be better than Weber in a few years but are not yet

Take a deep breath and back away from the internet for a while. I was saying Backes and McQuaid have bad contracts that could be dumped to another team to add more value to a trade. I didn't personally insult your entire family like you think I did.

They are better now... It's a different league. I dont really see Burns, Suter, Josi, Subban really getting better. The only one I might concede is Provorov.

Have you taken a look at Weber's advanced stats? Yuck.

https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/frozenpool_profiler.php?sent=go&players=888&games=2017-2018:R

LOL

https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/frozenpool_compare.php?compare%5B%5D=2674&compare%5B%5D=888&compare%5B%5D=2190&compare%5B%5D=856&compare%5B%5D=754&compare%5B%5D=4157&compare%5B%5D=3847&sent=go&games=2017-2018%3AR%3A99

McQuaid is a bonehead contract? LOL..... He's has 1Y remaining and makes 2.75M...Not even close to being a bad contract. Continue being butthurt Tavares doesn't want to go to MTL. What a debacle!! LMFAO... Go sign Voynov. It would make sense hahahahahahahahahahah BUTT HURT!!

Here is another:
https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/frozenpool_report.php?position=D&team=ALL&limit=50&period=2017-2018%3AR&datefrom=2018-06-26&dateto=2018-06-26&export=exportoff&report=Advanced+Stats&sent=go

30th in P/60 ***if you eliminate guys who played under 25 games
4th in IPP
9th on PP% points
17th CF%
His PDO did not register in top 50

So while he is really important to the Canadiens - He is not a top5 dman in the league anymore. Not even close. He is a very good player, but If I need a dman for one game there are 10+ guys I am taking ahead of him, If I am building for 2+ years, there are 20+. Just facts. On top of that tendon injuries are not good for guys who weigh 230lbs and play 24m a night.

Hardly a YUK!!!

Well my friend, I certainly appreciate the use of stats to make point. I definitely need to add you to my list of trusted contributors. You are among a very small list of CF GM's who have "out stated" me. I see your point. So do you think Boston would not make this trade? Or do you think as Meeces Boston would have to add?
You have no idea how many people will ignore the facts or stats and think their opinion is gospel. BTW he did injure his tendon early in the season and that could have contributed to his below career performance. That being said, thank you for your comments and evidence.

I don't think the Bruins and Canadiens would ever trade, the risk is too great for both teams. Especially on the level of players you are talking about, but I wouldn't take that Weber contract. he is good now and despite what I said, worth his salary now. I think he will rebound, but I view Chara as probably the closest comparison and although he is still pretty darn good, he started to not be that perennial Norris candidate around 36-37 and I think he because of his fitness level and body makeup will hold up far better than Weber. I would be very scared of paying Weber 8m for anything more than 2-3 years. Weber also hasn't been great in the playoffs and I think it's because the game speeds up and those big bruisers wear down. Weber is a +60 for his career and -8 in the playoffs. If had 3-4 years left, I would do it, but not with 8 years left. He would make you better in the very short term. Similar to the Subban deal. He is/was supposed to better than Subban the last two years, but he lost one to injury and Subban figured himself out again last year. that window passed.

I'd rather try to bridge a year or hope one of the kids develops. If you have that money locked up in Weber, you probably can't afford to sign all the kids. If you wanted to go that route. I would through a 7/8.5-10m at Doughty or Karlsson next offseason. His contract would be up at the same time as Weber's and he is 5 years younger.

Doh!
- Not better than McAvoy especially if he's not playing.
- Not top 5 regardless, but you can't be top 5 if you play 50 games over two years.
- Big guys break down. That contract is garbage, and will continue to get worse.
- Big Guys with knee injuries - uh-oh!

You might get Jack Hughes...