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Team: 2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 6, 2018
Published: Jul. 6, 2018
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    Jul. 6, 2018 at 6:09 p.m.
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    First of all, the calculator says 2 1st's, a 2nd, and a 3rd. You'd have to add another 1st with a 7 year x $6.75M contract for Dumba.

    Second, Nylander will easily get 6, that's a pretty low offer for him. Honest question: how, exactly, do you plan on re-signing Matthews and Marner if you signed Dumba to almost $7M? This doesn't really make sense for the Leafs given their cap situation.
    Jul. 6, 2018 at 6:10 p.m.
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    I was just thinking of starting a similar post. I think offer sheets are kind of frowned upon though and I doubt Nylander signs for so low for 4 years... Maybe two. Johnsson same deal. I doubt he signs for so low at 4 years. Maybe 2. I wonder if Minnesota would accept a trade for that instead of the offer sheet? kind of like what Burke did for Kessel? i would much rather give up picks than depth. And also I wonder if we could spread out those picks so they aren't in the same year?
    Jul. 6, 2018 at 6:11 p.m.
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    let's just imagine this goes through, in 2019/20 the Leafs would have not enough cap to sign Matthews, Marner and others without some a trade off Nylander or Kadri. Is Dumba worth all that
    Jul. 6, 2018 at 6:19 p.m.
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    Quoting: clark
    let's just imagine this goes through, in 2019/20 the Leafs would have not enough cap to sign Matthews, Marner and others without some a trade off Nylander or Kadri. Is Dumba worth all that


    It could work. If instead of 4 years for Nylander it's 2 and you get him to sign in the $5 mil range. If the cap is $82M in 2019/2020 there would be $25+M available to sign Matthews ($12M) & Marner ($8M) with a little left over to sign Kapanen (hopefully $2.5M) and add a few more people from the Marlies to the roster. It would be crazy tight but they might be able to make it work. The only problem is in 2020-21 when Nylander is an RFA again he will probably be getting a huge pay increase. Like $9M a season for 8 years but they should be able to afford that with Marleau gone.
    Jul. 6, 2018 at 6:25 p.m.
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    It could work. If instead of 4 years for Nylander it's 2 and you get him to sign in the $5 mil range. If the cap is $82M in 2019/2020 there would be $25+M available to sign Matthews ($12M) & Marner ($8M) with a little left over to sign Kapanen (hopefully $2.5M) and add a few more people from the Marlies to the roster. It would be crazy tight but they might be able to make it work. The only problem is in 2020-21 when Nylander is an RFA again he will probably be getting a huge pay increase. Like $9M a season for 8 years but they should be able to afford that with Marleau gone.


    but marleau isn't gone. you say 25m is available but that is sign all the rfas...matthews, marner, kapanen, borgman ozhikcov, dmen for the departed gardiner, hainsey, mcbackup replacement.
    Jul. 6, 2018 at 6:37 p.m.
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    but marleau isn't gone. you say 25m is available but that is sign all the rfas...matthews, marner, kapanen, borgman ozhikcov, dmen for the departed gardiner, hainsey, mcbackup replacement.


    I meant Marleau is gone the following year, 2020-21. That $25 mil for 2019-20 will have to be stretched super tight and the Leafs might have to do something similar to Marner as they would be doing to Nylander (Pay less now and over pay when the cap goes up and there are less contracts on the team). Let's say they have Nylander for $5M next year and Marner for $5.5M. Matthews at $12M, Kapanen at $2.5M Borgman at $1.1, Ozhikcov at $1.3 and Sparks at $1.3 and some Scrub for $850k, that leaves us with $611K.
    Jul. 6, 2018 at 6:44 p.m.
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    I meant Marleau is gone the following year, 2020-21. That $25 mil for 2019-20 will have to be stretched super tight and the Leafs might have to do something similar to Marner as they would be doing to Nylander (Pay less now and over pay when the cap goes up and there are less contracts on the team). Let's say they have Nylander for $5M next year and Marner for $5.5M. Matthews at $12M, Kapanen at $2.5M Borgman at $1.1, Ozhikcov at $1.3 and Sparks at $1.3 and some Scrub for $850k, that leaves us with $611K and I literally just this moment realized that in my $25M projection that that is without Horton on LTIR.


    Ozhikocov is two years away from being a UFA. If he NHL good, he gets more. maybe even Borgman as he older than most players coming off ELC. But I see this all the time (not necessarily your post), ACGMs really like squeezing RFA. And when the cap goes up, so does every salary just no the stars. Yes and you suggest it might work, but if some. the younger players coming off the their elcs are worth of raises, a player like nylander just has to be traded. it's not really a problem as likely you can good value for nylander in a trade. its just the reality of the cap.
    Jul. 6, 2018 at 6:49 p.m.
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    Quoting: clark
    Ozhikocov is two years away from being a UFA. If he NHL good, he gets more. maybe even Borgman as he older than most players coming off ELC. But I see this all the time (not necessarily your post), ACGMs really like squeezing RFA. And when the cap goes up, so does every salary just no the stars. Yes and you suggest it might work, but if some. the younger players coming off the their elcs are worth of raises, a player like nylander just has to be traded. it's not really a problem as likely you can good value for nylander in a trade. its just the reality of the cap.


    I would rather keep Nylander and trade Bergman and Ozhikocov or let them go back to Russia and Sweden and retain their rights. There are plenty of UFA's like Tyler Ennis (who is a great gamble) but the defensive equivalent who would take under $1M and are much more proven then those guys. But that's just me. I think it's very possible to keep them all and get a solid RHD or keep Gardiner (although that's not likely). I just want Nylander to sign so I can stop guessing at all this and know the actual figures. Hurry up Dubas, you're killing me!!!
    Jul. 6, 2018 at 8:05 p.m.
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    You messed up your offer sheet,

    the compensation is TWO first round picks on that offer

    The AAV for an offer sheet, which determines the compensation required, is derived by dividing the total contract value amount by the lesser of:
    number of years offered, or
    five (5) years
    Jul. 7, 2018 at 5:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: superbrett
    I would rather keep Nylander and trade Bergman and Ozhikocov or let them go back to Russia and Sweden and retain their rights. There are plenty of UFA's like Tyler Ennis (who is a great gamble) but the defensive equivalent who would take under $1M and are much more proven then those guys. But that's just me. I think it's very possible to keep them all and get a solid RHD or keep Gardiner (although that's not likely). I just want Nylander to sign so I can stop guessing at all this and know the actual figures. Hurry up Dubas, you're killing me!!!


    almost all players on their RFAs sign with their team, It weather the Leafs have enough cap to keep all their top paid players. maybe not so much this season but the next
    Jul. 7, 2018 at 5:58 p.m.
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    almost all players on their RFAs sign with their team, It weather the Leafs have enough cap to keep all their top paid players. maybe not so much this season but the next


    Wasn't Aaltonen an RFA? He didn't sign. I feel like It's a good way to keep these guys in the system. Send them an offer sheet or whatever for the lowest amount (if that's how it works) have them decline and go tl Russia and Sweden and we retain their rights when they come back. Although pretty soon these types of players won't sign with the Leafs if it happens too often.
    Jul. 7, 2018 at 6:07 p.m.
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    Wasn't Aaltonen an RFA? He didn't sign. I feel like It's a good way to keep these guys in the system. Send them an offer sheet or whatever for the lowest amount (if that's how it works) have them decline and go tl Russia and Sweden and we retain their rights when they come back. Although pretty soon these types of players won't sign with the Leafs if it happens too often.


    RFA NHL rights are held by their teams. Aaltonen left to be a regular in the KHL, making a guess 1m a year. if nylander wants to play in the khl for a million or two good for him, instead of the 7 million he can make for the Leafs.
    It's a terrible way to keep guys in the system. You want the players playing in the AHL or NHL, not in Europe. Now a 18/19 year old junior playing in the SHL is great, but of course they are not RFAs. Aaltonen is 24 year old, it was really his make or break season to be an NHLer. although the leafs retain his nhl rights, he's taken a step backwards in development if ever he wanted to be an nhler.
    Jul. 7, 2018 at 8:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: clark
    RFA NHL rights are held by their teams. Aaltonen left to be a regular in the KHL, making a guess 1m a year. if nylander wants to play in the khl for a million or two good for him, instead of the 7 million he can make for the Leafs.
    It's a terrible way to keep guys in the system. You want the players playing in the AHL or NHL, not in Europe. Now a 18/19 year old junior playing in the SHL is great, but of course they are not RFAs. Aaltonen is 24 year old, it was really his make or break season to be an NHLer. although the leafs retain his nhl rights, he's taken a step backwards in development if ever he wanted to be an nhler.


    I was talking about borgman and Ozhikocov not Nylander.
    Jul. 7, 2018 at 9:04 p.m.
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    I was talking about borgman and Ozhikocov not Nylander.


    borgman is has played in the shl. and nhl and ahl. do you really want to have in the shl? he's 23, time to know if he is nhl good or not. somewhat the same a ozhikocov. he will be a ufa in two years, similar to the zaiitsev situation when he signed with leafs. have to see if he is an nhler this season, although he might start in the ahl.
    Jul. 7, 2018 at 9:09 p.m.
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    Quoting: clark
    borgman is has played in the shl. and nhl and ahl. do you really want to have in the shl? he's 23, time to know if he is nhl good or not. somewhat the same a ozhikocov. he will be a ufa in two years, similar to the zaiitsev situation when he signed with leafs. have to see if he is an nhler this season, although he might start in the ahl.


    This is in response to the cap situation and how we can keep all of these guys in the system until we have the funds to pay him. if Borgman proves himself next year then he's probably be too expensive for the Leafs anyways so they'll have to trade him.
    Jul. 7, 2018 at 9:12 p.m.
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    This is in response to the cap situation and how we can keep all of these guys in the system until we have the funds to pay him. if Borgman proves himself next year then he's probably be too expensive for the Leafs anyways so they'll have to trade him.


    if borgman proves himself next year the leafs would love it. having a cost effective left side of the d consisting of Reilly, Dermot and borgman would be desirable . gardiner is almost assurdedly not a leaf in 2019-20
    Jul. 7, 2018 at 9:15 p.m.
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    if borgman proves himself next year the leafs would love it. having a cost effective left side of the d consisting of Reilly, Dermot and borgman would be desirable . gardiner is almost assurdedly not a leaf in 2019-20


    Unless the contract gets crazy like Zaitsev. Although he was a UFA right?
    Jul. 7, 2018 at 9:22 p.m.
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    Unless the contract gets crazy like Zaitsev. Although he was a UFA right?


    Zaitsev was signed as UFA...thought being a first year ELC his maximum contract was 925,000. he was then a RFA for just one season unless he was signed long term. after his successful first season, the leafs didn't want to have for just one more season then have him leave as a ufa. that's why the leafs signed zaitsev to seven year contract, which is still questionable if that was good idea.
    the Russian fellow ozhigchov is in the seem position. one year on his elc, then rfa. if he impresses, then the leafs would like him long term if the price is fair
     
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