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Created by: Mike7856
Team: 2018-19 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 12, 2018
Published: Jul. 12, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
Tkachuk, Brady
3$925,000
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse
  2. Russell, Kris
  3. Yamamoto, Kailer
  4. 2019 1st round pick (EDM)
  5. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM
    RFA Mark Stone
    2.
    OTT
    1. Callahan, Ryan
    2. Cirelli, Anthony
    3. Coburn, Braydon
    4. Foote, Cal
    5. Koekkoek, Slater
    6. Raddysh, Taylor
    7. 2019 1st round pick (TBL)
    8. 2019 3rd round pick (TBL)
    9. 2020 1st round pick (TBL)
    TBL
    1. Karlsson, Erik
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    3 Team Trade With NYR
    3.
    OTT
    1. 2019 2nd round pick (TBL)
    4.
    OTT
    TBL
    1. 2019 2nd round pick (TBL)
    5.
    6.
    OTT
    1. Franzen, Johan
    2. 2019 2nd round pick (DET)
    DET
    1. 2019 5th round pick (OTT)
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    2019
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    2020
    Logo of the OTT
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    Logo of the TBL
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    2021
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$79,500,000$46,727,498$0$5,015,000$32,772,502
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Tkachuk, Brady
    $925,000$925,000
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$710,000$710K)
    C, LW
    RFA - 3
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    $728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
    C, LW
    UFA - 2
    $1,800,000$1,800,000
    LW, RW, C
    UFA - 1
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 2
    $3,100,000$3,100,000
    C
    UFA - 2
    $894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$230,000$230K)
    RW
    RFA - 3
    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    LW, C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
    RW
    UFA - 1
    $900,000$900,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
    $1,100,000$1,100,000
    C
    UFA - 1
    $728,333$728,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
    C
    UFA - 2
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$360,000$360K)
    LD
    UFA - 2
    $3,500,000$3,500,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    $925,000$925,000
    LD
    UFA - 1
    $1,000,000$1,000,000
    RD
    UFA - 1
    $2,400,000$2,400,000
    G
    UFA - 2
    $3,700,000$3,700,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    LD/RD
    NMC
    UFA - 3
    $1,200,000$1,200,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    $4,650,000$4,650,000
    LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    $4,875,000$4,875,000
    RW
    UFA - 3
    $3,954,545$3,954,545
    RW, LW
    UFA - 2

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    Jul. 12, 2018 at 10:22 p.m.
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    I think you have over-valued Mark Stone.

    Russell is obviously a cap dump, but can still play top six minutes.
    Puljujarvi and Yamamoto are very high-end prospects, which Edmonton would not get rid of, due to Puljujarvi ready to enter the NHL, and Yamamoto having lots of upside. They need wingers, so Stone and the oilers may be a good match, but I can't see them getting rid of both of those guys. As for the picks, I don't think Stone is worth two 1st rounders, especially seeing as how Edmonton would be weary on giving them up, as they could be lottery picks. What about this as the trade:

    Yamamoto
    2019 1st Round Pick (Top 5 Protected)
    2019 3rd Round Pick

    In my opinion, the trade proposal you made could be a potential trade for EK (minus Russell).

    Also, TB cannot trade their 2019 1st or 2nd, because they already gave NYR a conditional 2nd in the McDonagh trade (which becomes a 1st if TB wins the cup).
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    Jul. 12, 2018 at 10:31 p.m.
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    Quoting: mikeb98
    I think you have over-valued Mark Stone.

    Russell is obviously a cap dump, but can still play top six minutes.
    Puljujarvi and Yamamoto are very high-end prospects, which Edmonton would not get rid of, due to Puljujarvi ready to enter the NHL, and Yamamoto having lots of upside. They need wingers, so Stone and the oilers may be a good match, but I can't see them getting rid of both of those guys. As for the picks, I don't think Stone is worth two 1st rounders, especially seeing as how Edmonton would be weary on giving them up, as they could be lottery picks. What about this as the trade:

    Yamamoto
    2019 1st Round Pick (Top 5 Protected)
    2019 3rd Round Pick

    In my opinion, the trade proposal you made could be a potential trade for EK (minus Russell).

    Also, TB cannot trade their 2019 1st or 2nd, because they already gave NYR a conditional 2nd in the McDonagh trade (which becomes a 1st if TB wins the cup).


    Stone is a top 10 right winger in the league. That is a fair price. And JP is not a high end prospect.
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    Jul. 12, 2018 at 10:31 p.m.
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    Edited Jul. 12, 2018 at 10:39 p.m.
    Quoting: mikeb98
    I think you have over-valued Mark Stone.

    Russell is obviously a cap dump, but can still play top six minutes.
    Puljujarvi and Yamamoto are very high-end prospects, which Edmonton would not get rid of, due to Puljujarvi ready to enter the NHL, and Yamamoto having lots of upside. They need wingers, so Stone and the oilers may be a good match, but I can't see them getting rid of both of those guys. As for the picks, I don't think Stone is worth two 1st rounders, especially seeing as how Edmonton would be weary on giving them up, as they could be lottery picks. What about this as the trade:

    Yamamoto
    2019 1st Round Pick (Top 5 Protected)
    2019 3rd Round Pick


    Doesn’t seem nearly enough for Stone. He’s easily one of if not the best defensive Winger in the game and can put up points as well. He’s always either at or near the top in the league in getting turnovers. I think pairing him with either McDavid or Drai would work wonders in Edmonton. I can see them not wanting to give up both prospects but Ottawa has more of a need to field a better team now (since col has OTT 1st) and also at RW (especially with Stone gone) which is why I think they’d rather get Puljujärvi. Maybe counter with:

    Puljujärvi
    Russell
    2019 1st (top 10 protected)
    2020 1st (unprotected) (if Edm keeps 2019 pick this becomes 2021)

    Also I traded TB 2nd back to them from NYR and gave NYR the 1st without the condition.
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    Jul. 12, 2018 at 10:38 p.m.
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    Stone in Edmonton would be fantastic no matter which line they put him on for sure. Hmm, I am still kind of stuck on the two first rounders (not fan of EDM, but I can't see them trading two).
    Looking back on it, I do agree mine was a little low for Stone, so after seeing your counter, how about this:

    Note: I am assuming Russell is a cap dump and takes away value on EDM side, so I will take him out

    Puljujarvi
    2019 1st (top 5 protected)
    2019 3rd
    2020 Conditional 2nd (becomes 1st if Stone gets back to back 30-goal seasons, or if EDM wins the cup)

    What do you think of that?
    Jul. 12, 2018 at 10:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: mikeb98
    Stone in Edmonton would be fantastic no matter which line they put him on for sure. Hmm, I am still kind of stuck on the two first rounders (not fan of EDM, but I can't see them trading two).
    Looking back on it, I do agree mine was a little low for Stone, so after seeing your counter, how about this:

    Note: I am assuming Russell is a cap dump and takes away value on EDM side, so I will take him out

    Puljujarvi
    2019 1st (top 5 protected)
    2019 3rd
    2020 Conditional 2nd (becomes 1st if Stone gets back to back 30-goal seasons, or if EDM wins the cup)

    What do you think of that?


    Think that’s closer to the value without Russell involved. Just don’t know what EDM cap situation is because Stone is an RFA right now and will probably get a contract between 7-8 mill per. If it fits I think OTT might accept. Maybe add a lower prospect too to sweeten the deal.
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    Jul. 12, 2018 at 10:51 p.m.
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    Quoting: Mike7856
    Think that’s closer to the value without Russell involved. Just don’t know what EDM cap situation is because Stone is an RFA right now and will probably get a contract between 7-8 mill per. If it fits I think OTT might accept. Maybe add a lower prospect too to sweeten the deal.


    I completely forgot EDM is near the cap, while they can make other moves to create space, trading Russell in this deal makes the most sense.

    Updated Trade:

    Puljujarvi
    Kris Russell
    Aberg
    2019 1st (top 5 protected) - becomes 2021 1st if EDM picks in top 5
    2019 2nd (this used to be 3rd)
    2020 Conditional 2nd (becomes 1st if Stone gets back to back 30-goal seasons, or if EDM wins the cup)

    Ottawa adds 6th Round Pick

    Would this get it done? I personally think this is an overpayment, but I do not watch enough of the Sens to know Stone's true value, and seeing as how you are a Sens fan I will go with your judgement.
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    Jul. 13, 2018 at 12:44 a.m.
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    Quoting: mikeb98
    I completely forgot EDM is near the cap, while they can make other moves to create space, trading Russell in this deal makes the most sense.

    Updated Trade:

    Puljujarvi
    Kris Russell
    Aberg
    2019 1st (top 5 protected) - becomes 2021 1st if EDM picks in top 5
    2019 2nd (this used to be 3rd)
    2020 Conditional 2nd (becomes 1st if Stone gets back to back 30-goal seasons, or if EDM wins the cup)

    Ottawa adds 6th Round Pick

    Would this get it done? I personally think this is an overpayment, but I do not watch enough of the Sens to know Stone's true value, and seeing as how you are a Sens fan I will go with your judgement.


    Think that would get it done! ?
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