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Trado for D option

Created by: lab1123
Team: 2018-19 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 6, 2018
Published: Aug. 6, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Duchene, Matt
  2. Karlsson, Erik
OTT
  1. Bear, Ethan
  2. Draisaitl, Leon
  3. Lucic, Milan
  4. 2019 1st round pick (EDM)
  5. 2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
2.
EDM
  1. Pacioretty, Max
  2. Shaw, Andrew
MTL
  1. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
  2. 2019 3rd round pick (NYI)
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$79,500,000$76,290,331$0$2,730,000$3,209,669
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Duchene, Matt
$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
McDavid, Connor
$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
UFA - 8
Strome, Ryan
$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
Pacioretty, Max
$4,050,000$4,050,000
LW
UFA - 1
Yamamoto, Kailer
$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$230,000$230K)
RW
RFA - 3
Puljujärvi, Jesse
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RW
UFA - 1
Rieder, Tobias
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Caggiula, Drake
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Shaw, Andrew
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 4
Åberg, Pontus
$650,000$650,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Brodziak, Kyle
$1,150,000$1,150,000
C
UFA - 2
Kassian, Zack
$1,950,000$1,950,000
RW
UFA - 2
Khaira, Jujhar
$675,000$675,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Rattie, Ty
$800,000$800,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Sekera, Andrej
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 3
Karlsson, Erik
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Talbot, Cam
$4,166,666$4,166,666
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Klefbom, Oscar
$4,167,000$4,167,000
LD
UFA - 5
Larsson, Adam
$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 3
Koskinen, Mikko
$2,500,000$2,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
Russell, Kris
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 3
Bouchard, Evan
$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 5
Gravel, Kevin
$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
Benning, Matthew
$1,900,000$1,900,000
RD
UFA - 2

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Aug. 6, 2018 at 3:47 p.m.
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Claesson4Norris
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That's not getting you both EK65 and MD95. I'm not sure ottawa bites for just Karlsson unless you retain on Lucic
Aug. 6, 2018 at 3:52 p.m.
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Karlsson, with an extension agreed upon, is worth Draisaitl + '19 1st round pick. So you're getting Duchene for Lucic + Bear + '20 3rd round pick...That's not gonna happens. Make it Yamamoto + Bear + '20 1st round pick (for the Duchene part of the deal) and this would be fait on both sides.
Aug. 7, 2018 at 2:08 a.m.
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Lucic nets nothing of value and requires a sweetener of its own.
Aug. 8, 2018 at 2:03 p.m.
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Quoting: jp_harvey
Karlsson, with an extension agreed upon, is worth Draisaitl + '19 1st round pick. So you're getting Duchene for Lucic + Bear + '20 3rd round pick...That's not gonna happens. Make it Yamamoto + Bear + '20 1st round pick (for the Duchene part of the deal) and this would be fait on both sides.


So in total you think that Karlsson & Duchene are worth: Two 1st round picks, Draisaitl (#1 Centre), Yamamoto and Bear (easily two of their best prospects)? They could both walk at the end of the season and Duchene is a number 2 center now at best. The fact that Ottawa could get a number 1 center, a good prospect, a number 1 pick, a 3rd and a character guy could help them out.

I'm not saying that this trade is fair, sure the Oilers could sweeten the deal a little, but I think your trade might be a little much. Just my thoughts
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Aug. 8, 2018 at 2:07 p.m.
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Quoting: jp_harvey
Karlsson, with an extension agreed upon, is worth Draisaitl + '19 1st round pick. So you're getting Duchene for Lucic + Bear + '20 3rd round pick...That's not gonna happens. Make it Yamamoto + Bear + '20 1st round pick (for the Duchene part of the deal) and this would be fait on both sides.


Quoting: twodollarlobster
So in total you think that Karlsson & Duchene are worth: Two 1st round picks, Draisaitl (#1 Centre), Yamamoto and Bear (easily two of their best prospects)? They could both walk at the end of the season and Duchene is a number 2 center now at best. The fact that Ottawa could get a number 1 center, a good prospect, a number 1 pick, a 3rd and a character guy could help them out.

I'm not saying that this trade is fair, sure the Oilers could sweeten the deal a little, but I think your trade might be a little much. Just my thoughts


Karlsson, with an extension agreed upon, is worth Draisaitl + '19 1st round pick. So you're getting Duchene for Lucic + Bear + '20 3rd round pick...That's not go

*Please read every reply carefully (THE PART THAT I PUT IN BOLD IS THE PART YOU MISSED)
Aug. 8, 2018 at 2:11 p.m.
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Three of the guys you got are on expiring contracts with zero control for Edmonton. The 4th guy is an overpaid bottom-sixer. Is Edmonton really "going for it" this season without regard for the future? McDavid is just 21 and has 15 years ahead of him - if you follow your plan through to next summer he'll basically be on an AHL team and the rebuild will be back at square 1.

This whole premise of this scenario is deeply flawed.
Aug. 8, 2018 at 5:28 p.m.
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twodollarlobster
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Quoting: jp_harvey
Karlsson, with an extension agreed upon, is worth Draisaitl + '19 1st round pick. So you're getting Duchene for Lucic + Bear + '20 3rd round pick...That's not go

*Please read every reply carefully (THE PART THAT I PUT IN BOLD IS THE PART YOU MISSED)


I did read everything. But this trade never specified if they resign or not. BUT while we are on this topic, let's assume that Karlsson resigns. He still isn't worth Drai and a 1st. Draisaitl has had more points than Karlsson, playing second fiddle to McDavid, he is younger than Karlsson and can still get better. You are in theory trading away a #1 D for a #1 C. Sure Karlsson is better but not worth a first rounder on top of that.
Aug. 8, 2018 at 7:40 p.m.
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Quoting: twodollarlobster
I did read everything. But this trade never specified if they resign or not. BUT while we are on this topic, let's assume that Karlsson resigns. He still isn't worth Drai and a 1st. Draisaitl has had more points than Karlsson, playing second fiddle to McDavid, he is younger than Karlsson and can still get better. You are in theory trading away a #1 D for a #1 C. Sure Karlsson is better but not worth a first rounder on top of that.


He is, in a landslide. Without even the shadow of a doubt. No arguments you can ever throw in will change that fact (because IT IS a fact, not an opinion). It's not a knock on L.D. at all, it's the difference between the best of the bests at his position (top2-3 D in the world) VS a great young elite centerman ("MAYBE" top 25-30 centermen in the world)...fact.
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Aug. 9, 2018 at 8:37 a.m.
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Here the trade are : Karlsson vs Draisaitl + 3rd or 2nd round and Duchene vs 1st round, Lucic, Bear. Conditions, Karlsson re-sign.
 
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