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Stripping it to the studs

Team: 2018-19 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 10, 2018
Published: Aug. 10, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Habs move into reboot mode, trading veterans for young studs and picks.

PRESEASON

Pacioretty is an upgrade for the Devils and only comes with a 2nd pick if Pacioretty leaves as a UFA.

Petry and McCarron to Ducks for two solid French-Canadian prospects, neither are critical to the Ducks prospect pool;

AT TDL

Pleks to a good home where he gets another kick at a Cup.

Byron and Valiev to COL for a high pick (assumes Colorado is a serious contender);

Schlemko and/or Benn are shipped out for late picks to provide playoff depth.
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Mueller, Mirco
  2. Zacha, Pavel
  3. 2020 2nd round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
** Conditional 2nd pick transfers is Pacioretty is re-signed, traded, or the NJD advance to second round of the 2019 playoffs **
2.
MTL
  1. 2021 2nd round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
Trade Deadline Move (Could be any team in the East)
CBJ
  1. Plekanec, Tomas
Additional Details:
Trade Deadline Move (Could be any team in the East)
3.
MTL
  1. 2021 5th round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Schlemko, David ($1,050,000 retained)
4.
MTL
  1. 2021 5th round pick (DAL)
5.
ANA
  1. Petry, Jeff ($2,250,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Rights to Mike McCarron
** This deal was edited from the original to reflect the maximum salary cap being retained.
6.
MTL
  1. 2019 1st round pick (COL)
Additional Details:
Lottery protected. In the event Colorado does not qualify for the playoffs, the pick reverts to a second and fourth, with the Habs 3rd rounder reverting to Montreal.
COL
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. Valiev, Rinat
  3. 2019 3rd round pick (MTL)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$57,811,308$0$1,815,000$21,688,692
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
$3,150,000$3,150,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
$650,000$650,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
$3,083,333$3,083,333
C
UFA - 3
$839,166$839,166
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$950,000$950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
UFA - 1
$1,850,000$1,850,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
$900,000$900,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$175,000$175K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
$1,300,000$1,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
$820,000$820,000 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LW
RFA - 3
$775,833$775,833
C
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$4,625,000$4,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$7,857,143$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 8
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 8
$748,333$748,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD/RD
UFA - 2
$850,000$850,000
LD
UFA - 1
$950,000$950,000
G
UFA - 1
$725,000$725,000
LD
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RD
UFA - 2
$700,000$700,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$3,900,000$3,900,000
C, RW
UFA - 4

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Aug. 10, 2018 at 4:29 p.m.
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Wow, this team would suck but Laval will be AWESOME!!!! tears of joy
Aug. 10, 2018 at 4:33 p.m.
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Quoting: HabsRafiki
Wow, this team would suck but Laval will be AWESOME!!!! tears of joy


Let's hope a few of those kids grow up. It's fun to imagine what might be possible if Poehling, Kotkeniemi, Comtois, Hudon, Drouin, Domi, Scherbak, and a few of the picks grow up together.
Aug. 10, 2018 at 4:37 p.m.
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I'm not going to sit here and say that either Comtois or Morand are amazing prospects, but ask yourself this:

Why would the Ducks move prospects for a guy that's being paid big bucks, that would play on their 3rd pairing, and a prospect that has fizzled out a fair amount?

The Avs deal is also ridiculous. There's nothing in that deal that gets you even close to a 1st rounder.
Aug. 10, 2018 at 4:50 p.m.
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I'm not going to sit here and say that either Comtois or Morand are amazing prospects, but ask yourself this:

Why would the Ducks move prospects for a guy that's being paid big bucks, that would play on their 3rd pairing, and a prospect that has fizzled out a fair amount?

The Avs deal is also ridiculous. There's nothing in that deal that gets you even close to a 1st rounder.


Ducks have Manson and Montour on the RHD. After that, you're down to Sustr, who's a UFA. Petry had more points than both Manson and Montour and gives the Ducks depth and strength where they're currently thinnest. If they're going to take a shot at a deep run into the playoffs, they'll need to upgrade the D. Anaheim has a history of making warships out of aircraft carriers -- like Chipchura. So, Petry for Comtois is reasonable. McCarron for Morand is a gamble for both teams.

Byron is a middle-6 winger capable of playing both sides. He's a much better player than Andrighetto, who they have in there now. Valiev is an RD on a team with only Erik Johnson and Tyson Barrie as RDs (his development is ahead of Conor Timmins). Those two players and swapping what should be a low 60s pick for a late 20s is not that big a stretch.
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Aug. 10, 2018 at 6:13 p.m.
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Ducks have Manson and Montour on the RHD. After that, you're down to Sustr, who's a UFA. Petry had more points than both Manson and Montour and gives the Ducks depth and strength where they're currently thinnest. If they're going to take a shot at a deep run into the playoffs, they'll need to upgrade the D. Anaheim has a history of making warships out of aircraft carriers -- like Chipchura. So, Petry for Comtois is reasonable. McCarron for Morand is a gamble for both teams.

Byron is a middle-6 winger capable of playing both sides. He's a much better player than Andrighetto, who they have in there now. Valiev is an RD on a team with only Erik Johnson and Tyson Barrie as RDs (his development is ahead of Conor Timmins). Those two players and swapping what should be a low 60s pick for a late 20s is not that big a stretch.


Preach it!
Aug. 10, 2018 at 8:17 p.m.
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I'll second the Avs trade being ridiculous. Johnson & Barrie yes. Then you'll have three lefties plus Alt competing for ice time after Zadorov, Girard and Cole (Nemeth, Barberio & Lindholm), and then you have Timmins, Meloche plus Makar when signed to bring into the picture. The package isn't worth a first round pick. Byron is too old for the Avs picture. Last season Andrighetto scored at a slightly higher Pts per Gm ratio than Byron to use your comparison and Andrighetto is younger. Sorry, your argument simply doesn't stack up!
Aug. 11, 2018 at 10:53 a.m.
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Ducks have Manson and Montour on the RHD. After that, you're down to Sustr, who's a UFA. Petry had more points than both Manson and Montour and gives the Ducks depth and strength where they're currently thinnest. If they're going to take a shot at a deep run into the playoffs, they'll need to upgrade the D. Anaheim has a history of making warships out of aircraft carriers -- like Chipchura. So, Petry for Comtois is reasonable. McCarron for Morand is a gamble for both teams.

Byron is a middle-6 winger capable of playing both sides. He's a much better player than Andrighetto, who they have in there now. Valie is an RD on a team with only Erik Johnson and Tyson Barrie as RDs (his development is ahead of Conor Timmins). Those two players and swapping what should be a low 60s pick for a late 20s is not that big a stretch.


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Preach it!


Again, I'm not saying that Petry isn't good, but spending $5.5 mil for the next 3 years on a guy that'll play on the 3rd pairing doesn't make any degree of sense. Plus that would immediately ruin any chances that they have of signing Silfverberg to an extension.

As for saying that the Avs pick will be in the late 20's, that's a bit of a stretch. They were a wildcard team last year, and got in by 1 pt. Is anyone really going to sit here and say that over the summer they improved enough to be a top 5 team? I seriously doubt it.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, nobody is trading first round picks for low upside guys. Byron is who he is, and on the vast majority of other teams in the league, he plays on the 4th line. As for saying that Valiev's development is ahead of Timmins? I can't argue for or against that, but am very aware that he's an AHL dman, who doesn't project as much more.
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Aug. 12, 2018 at 12:04 p.m.
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Again, I'm not saying that Petry isn't good, but spending $5.5 mil for the next 3 years on a guy that'll play on the 3rd pairing doesn't make any degree of sense. Plus that would immediately ruin any chances that they have of signing Silfverberg to an extension.

As for saying that the Avs pick will be in the late 20's, that's a bit of a stretch. They were a wildcard team last year, and got in by 1 pt. Is anyone really going to sit here and say that over the summer they improved enough to be a top 5 team? I seriously doubt it.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, nobody is trading first round picks for low upside guys. Byron is who he is, and on the vast majority of other teams in the league, he plays on the 4th line. As for saying that Valiev's development is ahead of Timmins? I can't argue for or against that, but am very aware that he's an AHL dman, who doesn't project as much more.


My mistake. I had meant to retain some the max amount of salary and knock Petry's cap hit down by 50%. I'll fix now.

On the Colorado pick, I'd be willing to move it to two seconds in the event there's a lottery situation. I had assumed that Colorado is viewed as being on the ascendence.
Aug. 12, 2018 at 12:21 p.m.
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I'll second the Avs trade being ridiculous. Johnson & Barrie yes. Then you'll have three lefties plus Alt competing for ice time after Zadorov, Girard and Cole (Nemeth, Barberio & Lindholm), and then you have Timmins, Meloche plus Makar when signed to bring into the picture. The package isn't worth a first round pick. Byron is too old for the Avs picture. Last season Andrighetto scored at a slightly higher Pts per Gm ration than Byron to use your comparison and Andrighetto is younger. Sorry, your argument simply doesn't stack up!


Valiev's top side isn't Meloche or Makar, but they'll need time to develop properly. Valiev is a cheap, game-ready option (substitute Lernout if you'd prefer). And if you'd rather go to war with Andrighetto over Byron (especially when you can have them both relatively cheaply), you're nuts. Byron plays both wings, sees almost no time on the PP, is a strong PK player, and was +21 in 2016-17 and -4 last year on a team that was outscored by 55 goals.
Aug. 12, 2018 at 3:19 p.m.
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Valiev's top side isn't Meloche or Makar, but they'll need time to develop properly. Valiev is a cheap, game-ready option (substitute Lernout if you'd prefer). And if you'd rather go to war with Andrighetto over Byron (especially when you can have them both relatively cheaply), you're nuts. Byron plays both wings, sees almost no time on the PP, is a strong PK player, and was +21 in 2016-17 and -4 last year on a team that was outscored by 55 goals.


Your argument still doesn't stack up.
 
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