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Push for the Cup

Created by: VRCR
Team: 2019-20 Vegas Golden Knights
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 19, 2018
Published: Aug. 19, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
This is a future outlook on a situation where the Knights push for the Cup in 2018-19. Some of the trades came from habs_fan123 and the rest from me. The trades values are up in the air as usual and we are also able to fit everyone well under the cap with opportunity to make more space for the following season. I’d love feedback and ideas to make this better. Thanks!
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$833,750
1$715,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
5$7,250,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
1$700,000
2$1,250,000
1$800,000
2$1,500,000
2$3,500,000
2$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,250,000
1$750,000
1$750,000
1$1,000,000
1$700,000
6$5,250,000
5$5,500,000
5$3,500,000
Trades
1.
VGK
  1. Spooner, Ryan
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Hayes, K
NYR
  1. Carrier, William
  2. Hague, Nicolas
  3. Matteau, Stefan
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (VGK)
Additional Details:
2019 1st Round Pick (VGK)
2.
VGK
  1. 2019 3rd round pick (CHI)
3.
VGK
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
Dzingel, R
OTT
  1. Holden, Nick
  2. Tatar, Tomas
  3. 2021 2nd round pick (VGK)
4.
VAN
  1. Jones, Benjamin
  2. Merrill, Jon
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (CBJ)
  4. 2020 5th round pick (VGK)
Additional Details:
2019 2nd Round Pick (VGK)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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Logo of the DAL
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the VGK
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Logo of the VGK
Logo of the VGK
2021
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the VGK
2022
Logo of the VGK
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Logo of the VGK
2019
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,000,000$74,276,666$0$1,300,000$7,723,334
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
UFA - 8
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$3,100,000$3,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
$2,750,000$2,750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
$5,500,000$5,500,000
C
UFA - 7
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
$700,000$700,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$750,000$750,000
LW
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, RW
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 6
$3,875,000$3,875,000
RD
UFA - 3
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 6
$4,450,000$4,450,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$2,500,000$2,500,000
LD
UFA - 3
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RD
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$450,000$450K)
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

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Aug. 19, 2018 at 5:43 p.m.
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Overpay to the Rangers.

Canucks decline

Sens decline.

Zona - ehh - if it’s a deadline deal and thay are in the hunt for the playoffs....maybe...otherwise no.

I ilke the team you end up with though.
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Aug. 19, 2018 at 5:48 p.m.
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I hate to see Bellemare and Engelland take pay cuts, but that's just emotional. Glad to see you noted the value of acquiring Dzingel. We should do this TODAY.

Slight overpay to the Rangers but so what? It's the Cup.

Canucks accept for the two draft picks.

Arizona accepts.

Ottawa has no choice.
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Aug. 19, 2018 at 6:35 p.m.
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Overpay to the Rangers.

Canucks decline

Sens decline.

Zona - ehh - if it’s a deadline deal and thay are in the hunt for the playoffs....maybe...otherwise no.

I ilke the team you end up with though.


Thanks for the feedback! I’d like to ask though, I’m ok with an overlay to he Rangers but what do you think would make the Canucks and Sens trades work? I thought the Canucks trade was actually an overpay for an aging, expiring, and expensive defenseman where they get a good, youngish depth dman and a 2nd/3rd. For Ottawa they get, while yes they are cap dumps, a great youngish Top6 winger that could use another change in scenery and an ok dman to reach the cap floor in a scenario where they clean house and we get a great young forward to fill a gap in our lineup and a 2nd to recoup some value that we gave up for Tatar. Just wondering, thanks!
Aug. 19, 2018 at 6:40 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I hate to see Bellemare and Engelland take pay cuts, but that's just emotional. Glad to see you noted the value of acquiring Dzingel. We should do this TODAY.

Slight overpay to the Rangers but so what? It's the Cup.

Canucks accept for the two draft picks.

Arizona accepts.

Ottawa has no choice.


Nucks have turned down better offers if you believe rumors. Been looking for a 1st and no pressure to move him.

Yotes, a low budget team, have no need for a 4m dollar 4th line center. Value is fair, Wrong team tho.

Sens, why? Rebuilding team is not trading a 2nd for a pair of roster fillers. They’ll trade Dzingel for a 2nd though.
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Aug. 19, 2018 at 6:46 p.m.
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Thanks for the feedback! I’d like to ask though, I’m ok with an overlay to he Rangers but what do you think would make the Canucks and Sens trades work? I thought the Canucks trade was actually an overpay for an aging, expiring, and expensive defenseman where they get a good, youngish depth dman and a 2nd/3rd. For Ottawa they get, while yes they are cap dumps, a great youngish Top6 winger that could use another change in scenery and an ok dman to reach the cap floor in a scenario where they clean house and we get a great young forward to fill a gap in our lineup and a 2nd to recoup some value that we gave up for Tatar. Just wondering, thanks!



Tanev is 28, hardly aging. Has 2 years left. They hsve been asking for a 1st.

Sens rebuilding, not giving up 2nd to pick up roster fillers. Unless a building block is coming back they aren’t trading away a top 50 pick. To valuable to a rebuilding team. They’d trade Dzingel for a pick. No interest in adding average to below average players thru trade.
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Aug. 19, 2018 at 6:46 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
I hate to see Bellemare and Engelland take pay cuts, but that's just emotional. Glad to see you noted the value of acquiring Dzingel. We should do this TODAY.

Slight overpay to the Rangers but so what? It's the Cup.

Canucks accept for the two draft picks.

Arizona accepts.

Ottawa has no choice.


Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, Engelland said he wants to retire here since he lives here already and that wage drop is already in his contract. Not to mention we can’t ignore the fact he’s 36, sadly, and waiting to get repacked by Brännström when he retires. Belle is crucial to our penalty kill and is a team legend already so his pay cut is minimal and we could even make it work without the pay cut. The Rangers overpay I’m okay with because add those two players would be MASSIVE for our chances to compete. Tanev is great depth even though I feel it’s an over pay for an aging, expiring dman. Arizona could really use Eakin as a mentor for their youth and push for the playoffs with that move, even at the deadline like Gofnut said. For Ottawa I think Tatar and Holden would be great because if they go full rebuild they could use them to reach the cap floor, while Dzingel fits perfectly into our team. The second is maybe too much so I’d change it to a 3rd. Overall, I’d love this as a scenario this season.
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Aug. 19, 2018 at 6:54 p.m.
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Thanks for the feedback! Yeah, Engelland said he wants to retire here since he lives here already and that wage drop is already in his contract. Not to mention we can’t ignore the fact he’s 36, sadly, and waiting to get repacked by Brännström when he retires. Belle is crucial to our penalty kill and is a team legend already so his pay cut is minimal and we could even make it work without the pay cut. The Rangers overpay I’m okay with because add those two players would be MASSIVE for our chances to compete. Tanev is great depth even though I feel it’s an over pay for an aging, expiring dman. Arizona could really use Eakin as a mentor for their youth and push for the playoffs with that move, even at the deadline like Gofnut said. For Ottawa I think Tatar and Holden would be great because if they go full rebuild they could use them to reach the cap floor, while Dzingel fits perfectly into our team. The second is maybe too much so I’d change it to a 3rd. Overall, I’d love this as a scenario this season.


Loved everything except the second-to-last sentence. Don't let the echo of prior "overpay!" howls deflect you -- you can afford to "overpay" when you win. And have extra draft picks. I would do anything necessary to get Dzingel. Your initial instinct was right.
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Aug. 19, 2018 at 7:11 p.m.
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The Rangers overpay is your perrogative. Just telling you, they take it and run before you can change your mind.

B’s tried to trade Spooner for 2 years. Best offer they got was a 2nd. He’s soft and does not play D.

Hague is 19, 6 foot 6 d man that put up 35 goals 78 pts 105 pims in jrs last year. Him and a 1st for Hayes who is solid but not a difference maker is pretty steep. It’s not a massive overpay. But it’s the type of move you make if you are going for it so i don’t dislike it.
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Aug. 19, 2018 at 7:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Gofnut999
The Rangers overpay is your perrogative. Just telling you, they take it and run before you can change your mind.

B’s tried to trade Spooner for 2 years. Best offer they got was a 2nd. He’s soft and does not play D.

Hague is 19, 6 foot 6 d man that put up 35 goals 78 pts 105 pims in jrs last year. Him and a 1st for Hayes who is solid but not a difference maker is pretty steep. It’s not a massive overpay. But it’s the type of move you make if you are going for it so i don’t dislike it.


Understandable, in reality we know none of the teams in the league would make any of the trades on this site but I’d be interested in this happening none the less. I’ve seen Hague at rookie camp and he’s looks really good, almost as good if not better than Brännström, but you never really know how a prospect can pan out. Thanks!
Aug. 19, 2018 at 7:33 p.m.
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Understandable, in reality we know none of the teams in the league would make any of the trades on this site but I’d be interested in this happening none the less. I’ve seen Hague at rookie camp and he’s looks really good, almost as good if not better than Brännström, but you never really know how a prospect can pan out. Thanks!


If i had to choose to between the 2 i’d keep Hague and trade Brannstrom. I’m probably the only one though, lol.
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