I feel like Chicago loses that Ottawa deal just because Saad was supposed to be and is still considered to be an important piece.

I don’t like to advertise, but why don’t you go check out my last post and see if that’s better. I agree that’s to much to give up while taking Ryan back.

Melnyk is too cheap for that deal. He only saves 375K on the Ryan/Seabrook difference and has to pay Seabs an extra two years. Plus the 6 mil tag on Saad.

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I don't see them taking Seabrook's contract without us taking on Ryan's. We get rid of that cap space in three years compared to what would be five. Get him out of Ottawa to reboot his career, he has the potential to be a 20 goal scorer, 50+ points again. He is similar to Saad in terms of production, they were actually 2 points apart last season while Ryan played 20 less games. And imagine if Ryan plays like his old self. 2017 he had a terrible season but in playoffs he produces 15 points in 19 games, showing he still has it. Even if he doesn't produce those numbers, I would rather have a struggling forward at that cap hit than a struggling defensemen. We have a ton of defense prospects and there will be no room for Seabrook in the lineup the way he's been playing. And for Saad, he is not as advertised and he will disappoint yet again this season in my opinion. Bringing back old pieces hasn't worked all these times Bowman has done it. I don't see it working with Saad. Getting rid of him frees up the cap space for Panarin. Who I think we all agree, we'd love to have back. Also, Dzingel is on the come up, he will be a great sign for whoever gets him if he hits free agency this upcoming offseason.

I’d just like to point out that you said that bringing back the old guys haven’t worked out thus far, and them immediately proceede to bring back a former player in Panarin.

Don’t get me wrong , I’d love to have Seabrook gone, but at the price of Saad I’ll pass.

Bringing back old guys hasn't worked, but bringing back a player of Panarin's caliber hasn't been done. Sharp, Ladd, Campbell, Oduya, those guys don't even compare to Panarin. Bringing back Panarin shouldn't even be a comparison to what has been brought back in the past. We are talking about landing the 2nd biggest free agent behind Karlsson. And if you think we could get more back with Saad involved, great, we get more back. I'd be fine with getting rid of Saad. He is not worth 6 mil. Signed that contract at the height of winning the cups. I also think your underestimating Ryan. He is not even close to worth his contract but he can easily replace Saad in our lineup.

I like Bobby Ryan, but I like Saad more. I also think that Ottawa rejects this because they would have to dish out more money to over paid players.