Look it up yourself

naturalstattrick.com

I proved that he is more effective than Pastrnak, Laine and Nylander, I don't owe you anything else.

What you proved is that McDavid and Draisaitl are good. Nearly everyone to play along side them, especially McDavid has good numbers. Puljujarvi probably has a 50-55 point/season ceiling based on his own abilities, and will get better totals if he proves he is good enough to play top 6 minutes. But a 20 year old with 2nd line as his likely ceiling, who is having trouble at the NHL level right now, won't fetch a great return. The risk that another team would be taking by acquiring him just isn't worth it, if he is being sold as if he has played up to his potential which he hasn't.
Since you still haven't answered a question I asked several posts ago I'll ask it again, what do you think he is worth? In rough terms, so it can be applied to multiply teams. Because I doubt any team would give up a 1st, and very few would give up an established top 6 forward or top 4 D for him.

Here's why I think Puljujarvi's role is limited by language. All but maybe two of his goals come from below the circles, just waiting for the puck: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HpPl58KQt0M#

If you watch his junior highlights, playing with Aho, he scored mostly off the cycle or off give and gos.

Can't find interviews. I think he's playing amazing for someone who can't talk to his teammates, and changes lines all the time.

If he's fluent in Swedish, I think the Caps take a chance on him. If not, the market is Car, VGK, Minn, Mon, Phi; teams with established Finnish centers.

...and in LA? Isn't the above team a bit more balanced, with two experienced defensemen on each side, and twice as many wings who could potentially score 20 goals? Granted, Domi is not leaving Montreal soon, but they've got Paul Byron in the press box who hit twenty last year, and whom they'd probably move to add a recent top five pick from the same country as their own?

Emonton's in the middle third of the league in both goals for and against per game. Doughty wouldn't come cheap, even with the Kings last in the West right after signing him for life, but I think he'd help a bit at each end. Adding some wings who can score goals would help on offense.

Or is this Weber to Montreal all over again? Where are the signs, smart guy?

Byron isn't being scratched, he is out with an injury.
As for the language issue, either he needs to do something or the team does, otherwise nothing will change. He hasn't played well enough to get a good enough return in a trade for EDM to justify trading such a recent top 5 pick. The reason I've brought up him being at the end of his elc after this season is that EDM will need to make a decision on what he is worth, and depending on the deal his value as a potential trade chip could drop.

I gave you the link, but since you'd rather argue, here is the info in plain English.

McDavid with and without Puljujarvi, 2017-18, 5v5

CF% with: 54.61
CF% w/o: 50.30

FF% with: 55.79
FF% w/o: 51.59

SF% with: 53.35
SF% w/o: 50.71

GF% with: 61.90
GF% w/o: 55.67

It's pretty clear that Puljujarvi made McDavid better.

http://naturalstattrick.com/playerreport.php?fromseason=20172018&thruseason=20172018&stype=2&sit=5v5&stdoi=oi&rate=n&v=t&playerid=8478402




I guess you haven't been following, but my whole point is that it would be extremely stupid for Edmonton to give up on the player at this point. I'm not entertaining offers.

That's a solid statistical argument for why Edmonton needs some good wings.

Not really... Leon Draisaitl was McDavid's most common RW last year. I hear he's pretty good.

"I hear."

Probably just a rumor.

I guess you haven't been following, but my whole point is that it would be stupid for a team to give up any real value for a player who just can't seem to turn the corner and stick at the NHL level. Their are more players in the situation Puljujarvi is in that don't make the NHL than there are players who do make it. Obviously there is some flaw in his game that is causing Edmonton to put him behind guys like Ty Rattie. I don't think the Oilers should trade him either, because they won't get a good return due to his current level of play. Or it might be because while McDavid had a higher corsi for% when on the ice with Puljujarvi, he also has better numbers when on the ice with Yamamoto, Slepyshev, Maroon, and Lucic vs. when he was without them. Unless your saying all of those players make McDavid better.
I will put this into some perspective for you, Puljujarvi would be 13th in points per 60 min among forwards on MTL, the team he is being traded to in this post. While he has spent time with poor linemates he has also spent time with McDavid and Draisaitl, who are far above any players in MTL.

Puljujarvi has 2.5M in performance bonuses in his contract this year. If the Oilers can make the playoffs without him even playing, I can think of 2.5 million reasons he sits, on top of his language learning curve.

This should be a major issue for the next CBA.

That's a bad precedent to set, especially if your looking to draft NCAA guys. Plus RFA or not that's some bad blood you'd be risking going into negotiating that 2nd contract.

True. And hockey players and former players are known for respecting each other's feelings, and the Oilers are known for patiently developing all of their top draft picks in a thoughtful, nurturing environment.