I hate the thought of trading Nylander

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Created by: PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood

Team: 2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 12, 2018

Published: Nov. 12, 2018

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There are 2 reasons why I hate this whole situation.

#1 Any trade for a defenceman, TO loses. Nylander is a 22 year old player who's best hockey is still to be played. The available defenceman are either inferrior players that their owners will hold on to and demand a huge return for. Or they are older and leaving their prime and in that case, their best hockey is likely behind them.

#2 Nylander is getting zero respect which many think is lowering his value. He's 22 and is one of the best young players in the game. Compare him to whoever you want and complain about his salary demands all you want, but to say he's nothing more than 60 point winger which apparently grow on trees, (they don't) that is just silly.

#3 If he wants a big contract with TO, why would he consider going lower for a different team.

In Conclusion, I think Friedman is full of crap and is making stuff up. And if he isn't there are likely only a couple of teams who would be willing to overpay Nylander on a contract which will greatly reduce the return. Perhaps Dubas is saying, okay fine, go see if you can get a contract, if no one is willing to meet your demands, lets get back to business and get this done.

If it was up to me and he continues to sit, sit him for the whole year. Don't trade him and make due with what we have. Keep sitting him until he decides to be a team player and figure out a way he can protect himself and get paid. Also get rid of his dad, he's the worst guy to ask advice from.

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Johnsson, Andreas $787,500$787,500 LW, RW UFA - 1	Lindholm, Pär $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) LW, C UFA - 1	Kapanen, Kasperi $863,333$863,333 RW UFA - 1
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Nov. 12, 2018 at 12:28 p.m.

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Quoting: Eli

Nylander helps Matthews get 1 point per game.
Kapanen helps Matthews get 1.5 points per game. /thread.

And Matthews has had negative possession stats and is a minus at 5v5. While playing with Nylander? They were one of the best in the league for both possession, scoring chances and plus minus. Kapanen is not as good as Nylander.

Nov. 12, 2018 at 12:29 p.m.

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Quoting: Chopper02

I wouldn't make Marner a 10 million dollar winger. I'd make him a 7.5 to 8 mil winger. Marner is a lot more defensive conscious than Nylander and he's been doing it while increasing his offensive output. Im not a Maple Leaf fan, but right now Marner is the better overall player. If Marner made 8 and Nylander 7, I would say that's pretty fair.

Hello sir, yes this is the choir, and yes continue preaching!

Nov. 12, 2018 at 12:37 p.m.

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Quoting: LoganOllivier

Perhaps if the Leafs' defense weren't so bad...

Nov. 12, 2018 at 12:39 p.m.

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Quoting: MelonVK

I think this is important as well. People are paying UFA's way less now. Compare Yandle's free agent contract to De Haan's, Yandle might be more of a point getter, but a couple of years ago De Haan would probably get the same contract. Pacioretty, Stastny, Neal, a couple of years ago these guys would get PAID, but most gm's recognize players peak younger and the shift in who's getting payed is happening as we speak. You can always look at comparables and say "but but but this guy", but that's not constructive. The fact that we recognize that on guy is underpayed doesn't mean the next guy should be as well. Why is everyone using the Pastrnak contract as a comparable instead of the Draisaitl one? Because they want Ny to sign cheaply. No one's bringing up the fact that Bobby Ryan is making more than William's asking for since a couple years back because they want him to sign cheaply. Pasta has one of the better contracts in the league right now, you can't just look at the cheap extremes for contract negotiations - at least not if you don't want to look at the expensive extremes as well.

Keep sending it brother! Well said and a point I also touched on today. Like JVR gets 7 mill a year, who's better him or Nylander? Its not even close, Nylander is the superior player. He just does way more than score goals. He's a playmaker and one of the best puck retrievers in the Offensive and Neutral zones in the entire league. Plus he's really fast and can handle the puck at speed better than most.

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Nov. 12, 2018 at 12:43 p.m.

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Quoting: Eli

Perhaps if the Leafs' defense weren't so bad...

They are so bad.

Just listen to these supporting stats for how bad the Leafs defence is.

These are all league wide stats.

Goals against? Leafs are 9th but have played 17 games which is 2 more than a few of the teams ahead of them.

Goal Differential? Leafs are tied with Boston for 3rd in the league.

Shots against? 15th so average in this regard.

So tell me, how bad is TO's defence? Because statistically speaking, they are at worst average and at best top 3rd.

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