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A new perspective to an old idea Nylander

Created by: TanSor
Team: 2018-19 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 12, 2018
Published: Nov. 13, 2018
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Spurgeon offers a huge upgrade over Zaitsev. Now, I'm not saying Zaitsev is a terrible player, but Spurgeon is far superior both offensively and defensively. Spurgeon would become the 1RD Toronto is looking for.

Nino could really use a change in scenery. He has shown he can produce 20+ goal seasons and he could hit the 30 goal mark playing in Toronto. His contract is a bit of a risk if he doesn't show up on the score sheet (he has been incredibly snake-bitten this year despite playing well), which is why I added Zaitsev from the Leafs (since Zaitsev's contract is also a little risky due to the term). Nino has the benefit of being able to play both sides and could be a nice LW for Matthew or Tavares.

Coyle was injured almost the entire year last year causing a dip in production, but he's still a solid middle 6 forward. He'd be a big upgrade to Brown and would probably slot in next to Kadri on the 3rd line (once Matthews returns). Toronto is getting him at a hair over what they are paying now, which is why I added the pick from Toronto.



To sum it up:

Rumors are that Toronto needs help with their depth scoring. Toronto addresses exaclty that here and gets two wingers that have put up near 60 point seasons in the past. They also add a top pairing RD to address their defensive needs. The 5th is to add a little bit more value to Toronto to balance out the fact they'd lose a 4th here.

MN gets a young stud forward to help them get younger and more skilled along with a serviceable top 4 defenseman with a sketchy contract, a bottom 6 winger, and a slightly better draft pick.



Cap implications for Toronto is laid out in the trade below. I went back and forth between giving MN a 3rd or a 4th from Toronto but ultimately decided on the 4th. Let me know if you think I should swap it or alter the trade slightly to make it more fair.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$7,500,000
Trades
MIN
  1. Brown, Connor
  2. Zaitsev, Nikita
  3. 2019 4th round pick (STL)
Additional Details:
Rights to William Nylander
TOR
  1. Coyle, Charlie ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. Niederreiter, Nino
  3. Spurgeon, Jared
  4. 2019 5th round pick (MIN)
Additional Details:
Here's how this helps Toronto's salary position:
Toronto wants to sign Willy near $6.5M (I believe this is the number they feel comfortable with to be able to re-sign Matthews and Marner and all their other RFA's) so I'll use that number.

Leafs cap between these 3 Leafs players next year using $6.5M for Willy:
$13,100,000

Leafs cap next year if they got these Wild players (using $1M retention for Coyle):
$12,637,500

So Leafs save a little less than $500k by making this trade which helps their flexibility even more. If they signed Willy to the $7.5M I'd be willing to give him, this number increases to $1.5M in savings which is about what 2 depth players cost.
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$79,500,000$76,300,258$25,000$825,000$3,199,742
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,750,000$5,750,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$7,538,462$7,538,462
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
$7,500,000$7,500,000
RW
UFA - 6
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
C
UFA - 1
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$916,666$916,666 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,875,000$2,875,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
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$687,500$687,500
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,538,462$7,538,462
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$2,166,667$2,166,667
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,166,667$4,166,667
LD
UFA - 3
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
UFA - 6
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$650,000$650,000
G
UFA - 1
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$725,000$725,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$700,000$700,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
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$650,000$650,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 13, 2018 at 3:29 p.m.
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Quoting: wabit
I don't care about minutes, never claimed to.


Thank you for sharing your feelings but the great thing about statistics is that they're true whether you like them or not.

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What hope am I supposed to give about Burakovsky? .......that he's actually a 1st line wing that's been held down by the man?


Well, he did play for Trotz, and now for Trotz' assistant....

Quoting: wabit
Put him next to McDavid and he's a 50p-60p player.


If you're going to make all of my points for me, I'm not going to argue with you. smile
Nov. 13, 2018 at 4:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Eli
Thank you for sharing your feelings but the great thing about statistics is that they're true whether you like them or not.

Well, he did play for Trotz, and now for Trotz' assistant....

If you're going to make all of my points for me, I'm not going to argue with you. smile


No the great thing about statistics is you can make them say whatever you want. It's just how you choose to read them, or tweak the variables to prove your point. The same goes for editing out a portion of what was said.

He hasn't been held down. He hasn't done anything to earn any more ToI. Burakovsky wouldn't see time next to McDavid, he'd be on a line with Strome and Lucic even in the one line Oilers team.
Nov. 13, 2018 at 4:07 p.m.
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@arousedcat sorry for derailing the discussion about the team you made. I might not agree with your valuation of some players but it's always worth the time to discuss it with you.
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Nov. 13, 2018 at 4:12 p.m.
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Quoting: wabit
@arousedcat sorry for derailing the discussion about the team you made. I might not agree with your valuation of some players but it's always worth the time to discuss it with you.


No worries or hard feelings here smile always a pleasure for me to hear your perspective even if I don't entirely agree all the time.
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Nov. 13, 2018 at 4:22 p.m.
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Edited Nov. 13, 2018 at 4:36 p.m.
Quoting: wabit
No the great thing about statistics is you can make them say whatever you want. It's just how you choose to read them, or tweak the variables to prove your point. The same goes for editing out a portion of what was said.

He hasn't been held down. He hasn't done anything to earn any more ToI. Burakovsky wouldn't see time next to McDavid, he'd be on a line with Strome and Lucic even in the one line Oilers team.


Burakovsky already played on McDavid's line when they were both rookies in Erie, and Burakovsky got 41g 87p in 57gp, right? If he was on Strome's line, he'd do a lot more there than Puljujarvi does, because he's been in North America twice as long, he's been in the NHL five times as long, his English is twice as good, and he's twice as responsible defensively. But since the Oilers have Chiasson on their 2nd line, who was the Caps' 12th/13th forward last year, the Caps' third line wing could absolutely make the Oilers' top line. Burakovsky is two years younger than Ty Rattie, and has 100 more NHL points.

Rattie's a 25 year old 2nd round pick the Blue gave up on. The Caps have one of those in their press box right now: Dimitrij Jaskin. Burakovsky wouldn't get to play with McDavid? Where do you come up with this stuff?
Nov. 14, 2018 at 3:41 a.m.
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Quoting: JelloPony
Are you really trying to make Jason Zucker a comparable based off of one season? Last two years (inc. playoffs):

Matthews / Zucker
Age 21 26
GP 156 171
G 79 56
A 60 56
P 139 112
PPG .89 .65


No. In a thread about Nylander I must've thought your comments about Matthews we're a typo. My unedited comment above says Nylander. Why is anyone talking about Matthews? Let's try and focus.
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