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If Gordon said screw the rebuild

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Team: 2018-19 New York Rangers
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 9, 2019
Published: Jan. 9, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$900,000
Trades
1.
NYR
  1. 2019 1st round pick (CAR)
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STL
  1. Andersson, Lias
  2. Buchnevich, Pavel
  3. Deangelo, Anthony
  4. Lundkvist, Nils
  5. Shattenkirk, Kevin ($1,000,000 retained)
  6. 2019 1st round pick (CAR)
  7. 2019 2nd round pick (NYR)
Buyouts
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Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2018
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$79,500,000$70,615,693$0$1,595,000$8,884,307
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$5,350,000$5,350,000
C
UFA - 4
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 5
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$2,275,000$2,275,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$5,175,000$5,175,000
C
UFA - 1
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW, RW, C
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
UFA - 3
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$1,850,000$1,850,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$708,750$708,750
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW, C
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
UFA - 6
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RD
UFA - 4
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
UFA - 1
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$650,000$650,000
G
UFA - 1
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$833,333$833,333 (Performance Bonus$182,500$182K)
LD
UFA - 3
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$4,350,000$4,350,000
LD/RD, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$730,000$730,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Jan. 9, 2019 at 12:40 p.m.
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1. isn't it gorton?
2. The Blues laugh at you and tell you to never call again.
Jan. 9, 2019 at 12:40 p.m.
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I know this is a trivial part of the deal (salary only) but I don't like any trades that bring guys back to St Louis. I see Shattenkirk or Backes or Berglund get brought up and it drives me nuts. This team has to move forward, not backward. As for the value of the trade, maybe it's close, but it's banking on a ton of potential and I think the Blues could get more if they dealt Tarasenko and Parayko separately. Personally, I wouldn't deal those 2 at all but something big could happen.

FWIW I like Kravtsov and Chytil more than Lias. And Buch and DeAngelo don't do much for me considering what we'd be giving up. What about Tarasenko for Chytil + 2019 1st NYR + Namestnikov or Kravstov + Skjei + 2019 2nd. Not sure if those are reasonable. I don't like them for STL but I'm too big of a Tarasenko fan to remain unbiased.
Jan. 9, 2019 at 1:01 p.m.
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I know this is a trivial part of the deal (salary only) but I don't like any trades that bring guys back to St Louis. I see Shattenkirk or Backes or Berglund get brought up and it drives me nuts. This team has to move forward, not backward. As for the value of the trade, maybe it's close, but it's banking on a ton of potential and I think the Blues could get more if they dealt Tarasenko and Parayko separately. Personally, I wouldn't deal those 2 at all but something big could happen.

FWIW I like Kravtsov and Chytil more than Lias. And Buch and DeAngelo don't do much for me considering what we'd be giving up. What about Tarasenko for Chytil + 2019 1st NYR + Namestnikov or Kravstov + Skjei + 2019 2nd. Not sure if those are reasonable. I don't like them for STL but I'm too big of a Tarasenko fan to remain unbiased.


Just to get this out of the way: I think there's basically zero chance that the blues move on from either of them and an even smaller chance that the Rangers would make an offer.

That being said, I completely see where you're coming from with not wanting Shattenkirk back. He's not doing too hot and he'd make the team older. The only problem is that in order for the rangers to make any significant move, they've gotta include one of the 3 expensive defenseman (Shattenkirk, Staal and Smith) and Shattenkirk is both the best and youngest of the group.

The blues could probably get more for them separately, but I don't necessarily think this is a massive underpay.

At this point I'm pretty sure everyone is along the same track of Kravtsov>Chytil>Andersson but that doesn't mean that Andersson isn't still a very good prospect. I understand why the blues would try to target them, but a team rarely trades it's very best prospects in a deal (even for someone elite) and I don't think the rangers would consider parting with their top 2.

I'm honestly pretty surprised by your opinions on Buch. I personally think he's got a better future ahead of him than Chytil, but he just doesn't like the spotlight of New York.

I understand the not caring for DeAngelo, he doesn't have much value, but he can serve as a decent 7th defenseman in a pinch.

I know you didn't mention him above, but Nils is also a really good defensive prospect. I feel like he doesn't exactly get seen as that due to him being the Rangers third pick last year, but he was still a 1st rounder and is more than holding his own in a men's league.

All in all, I don't see the Rangers and blues being trade partners at any level, but I was bored and got curious as to what it would take ?
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Jan. 9, 2019 at 1:08 p.m.
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Lets Go Blues
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Just to get this out of the way: I think there's basically zero chance that the blues move on from either of them and an even smaller chance that the Rangers would make an offer.

That being said, I completely see where you're coming from with not wanting Shattenkirk back. He's not doing too hot and he'd make the team older. The only problem is that in order for the rangers to make any significant move, they've gotta include one of the 3 expensive defenseman (Shattenkirk, Staal and Smith) and Shattenkirk is both the best and youngest of the group.

The blues could probably get more for them separately, but I don't necessarily think this is a massive underpay.

At this point I'm pretty sure everyone is along the same track of Kravtsov>Chytil>Andersson but that doesn't mean that Andersson isn't still a very good prospect. I understand why the blues would try to target them, but a team rarely trades it's very best prospects in a deal (even for someone elite) and I don't think the rangers would consider parting with their top 2.

I'm honestly pretty surprised by your opinions on Buch. I personally think he's got a better future ahead of him than Chytil, but he just doesn't like the spotlight of New York.

I understand the not caring for DeAngelo, he doesn't have much value, but he can serve as a decent 7th defenseman in a pinch.

I know you didn't mention him above, but Nils is also a really good defensive prospect. I feel like he doesn't exactly get seen as that due to him being the Rangers third pick last year, but he was still a 1st rounder and is more than holding his own in a men's league.

All in all, I don't see the Rangers and blues being trade partners at any level, but I was bored and got curious as to what it would take ?


No harm in making a curious post, it's pretty much what this site is for. I've thought about what the Rangers would look like if they sped up the rebuild... would be cool to see if they got Panarin and then traded for Tarasenko. Would still need to shore up the defense IMO (not sold on Skjei being /the guy/ back there), but going for it one last time before Hank hangs them up would be pretty awesome to see.

I do think Nils is a good prospect. Rangers did really well in the first round last year.
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Jan. 10, 2019 at 1:32 a.m.
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Both overpays. Rangers say no.
 
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