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Created by: superbrett
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 28, 2019
Published: Feb. 28, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Values might be off on Brown and Zaitsev. I retained money to get a somewhat better return but also because I think a team would be more willing to take his contract at $3.5 instead of $4.5. Marner and Matthews are locked up the same length of time.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$750,000
2$2,750,000
2$3,125,000
5$8,250,000
1$700,000
1$1,125,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2019 3rd round pick (NYI)
EDM
  1. Brown, Connor
2.
TOR
  1. 2019 3rd round pick (DAL)
NJD
  1. Zaitsev, Nikita ($1,000,000 retained)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,000,000$77,294,699$0$215,000$5,705,301
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Hyman, Zach
$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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Marner, Mitchell
$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW
UFA - 6
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Johnsson, Andreas
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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Matthews, Auston
$11,634,000$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
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Kapanen, Kasperi
$3,125,000$3,125,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Marleau, Patrick
$700,000$700,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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Kadri, Nazem
$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 5
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Moore, Trevor
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Gauthier, Frédérik
$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 1
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Bracco, Jeremy
$842,500$842,500 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Rielly, Morgan
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
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Muzzin, Jake
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Andersen, Frederik
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Dermott, Travis
$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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Ozhiganov, Igor
$1,125,000$1,125,000
RD
UFA
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Rosén, Calle
$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 2
Girardi, Dan
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
UFA
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Sparks, Garret
$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Holl, Justin
$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Horton, Nathan
$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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Borgman, Andreas
$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
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Marchment, Mason
$767,500$767,500 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Feb. 28, 2019 at 1:33 p.m.
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use money from Girardi for Marner, he aint signing for that cheap.
Feb. 28, 2019 at 1:35 p.m.
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Quoting: SammyT_51
use money from Girardi for Marner, he aint signing for that cheap.


On a five year deal though.
Feb. 28, 2019 at 1:36 p.m.
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On a five year deal though.


Matthews got 11.634 on 5yr deal, Marner would get close to or maybe even 10
Feb. 28, 2019 at 1:39 p.m.
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Matthews got 11.634 on 5yr deal, Marner would get close to or maybe even 10


I think the thinking in the hockey world is that Matthews would have got $14 on an 8 year deal and took the hit on a 5. Marner would get $10-$11 on an 8 so his value should be around $8 in a 5.
Feb. 28, 2019 at 1:43 p.m.
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Quoting: superbrett
I think the thinking in the hockey world is that Matthews would have got $14 on an 8 year deal and took the hit on a 5. Marner would get $10-$11 on an 8 so his value should be around $8 in a 5.


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Matthews got 11.634 on 5yr deal, Marner would get close to or maybe even 10


Believe me Brett, I've gone down this road. Just go with the 10 number and hope you're right.
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Feb. 28, 2019 at 1:49 p.m.
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I think the thinking in the hockey world is that Matthews would have got $14 on an 8 year deal and took the hit on a 5. Marner would get $10-$11 on an 8 so his value should be around $8 in a 5.


I get that but the best option is to look at cap percentage. Marners best comparison is Draisaitl imo. He got 11.33% of cap hit in 2017/18 season. Marner would be getting 9.5-10 in that percentage. Draisaitl got 8yr deal. Marner would get 6, because thats a new trend. A wise trend. I would expect 9-10 range for Marner on 6yr deal. Above 10 if more yrs.
Feb. 28, 2019 at 1:52 p.m.
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Believe me Brett, I've gone down this road. Just go with the 10 number and hope you're right.


I posted yesterday at an 8 year deal at $10.975, which I would prefer to be honest, but there needs to be some cap help.
Feb. 28, 2019 at 1:52 p.m.
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I get that but the best option is to look at cap percentage. Marners best comparison is Draisaitl imo. He got 11.33% of cap hit in 2017/18 season. Marner would be getting 9.5-10 in that percentage. Draisaitl got 8yr deal. Marner would get 6, because thats a new trend. A wise trend. I would expect 9-10 range for Marner on 6yr deal. Above 10 if more yrs.


Is the assumption not that Centers are more valuable than wingers? The real test will be to see what Rantanen gets.
Feb. 28, 2019 at 1:54 p.m.
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Is the assumption not that Centers are more valuable than wingers? The real test will be to see what Rantanen gets.


They are but also Marner is better than Draisaitl..
Feb. 28, 2019 at 1:56 p.m.
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Is the assumption not that Centers are more valuable than wingers? The real test will be to see what Rantanen gets.


Here is what I was referring to. It's unfinished and I have turned it into a bit of a storage dump but the first three sections should say everything you need to know.
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/884206
The main criticism now of this post was the term, which once accounted for says that AM is overpaid, and that if these 10 numbers are true about Marner, that he will be badly overpaid.
As I said. I have been DOWN that road, I'm just hoping I'm right at this point, but preparing for 6@10
Feb. 28, 2019 at 2:10 p.m.
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Here is what I was referring to. It's unfinished and I have turned it into a bit of a storage dump but the first three sections should say everything you need to know.
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/884206
The main criticism now of this post was the term, which once accounted for says that AM is overpaid, and that if these 10 numbers are true about Marner, that he will be badly overpaid.
As I said. I have been DOWN that road, I'm just hoping I'm right at this point, but preparing for 6@10


Seems slightly dated now as Marner has gone off the charts and is a top scorer in the league. I would say he is comparable to Johnny Hockey to be honest. If he could get the same cap % as him on a 5 or 6 year deal I would be happy.

Very thorough and informative though. Thanks for sharing that.
Feb. 28, 2019 at 2:51 p.m.
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Seems slightly dated now as Marner has gone off the charts and is a top scorer in the league. I would say he is comparable to Johnny Hockey to be honest. If he could get the same cap % as him on a 5 or 6 year deal I would be happy.

Very thorough and informative though. Thanks for sharing that.


I specifically use Gaudreau as a comparable in that. Marner is on pace to blow his adjusted AAV out of the water (which would by 7.677/ year) according to the often thrown out numbers of 9 and 10.
Remember, Mitch has returned to his normal self at a 60 point pace and is not on pace to get more than 90 some odd points this year. Just a reminder that JT has a noted history of getting wingers paid...
 
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