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Team: 2019-20 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 11, 2019
Published: Apr. 11, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
All in for a cup, how is this?
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$3,333,000
2$6,500,000
1$800,000
1$925,000
1$925,000
1$925,000
2$1,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
1$800,000
2$925,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
Trades
1.
MIN
  1. Backes, David ($1,500,000 retained)
  2. Forsbacka Karlsson, Jakob
  3. Senyshyn, Zach
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (BOS)
  5. 2021 4th round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
Conditional 2021 4th round draft pick: If the Boston Bruins win the Stanley Cup in 2020 or 2021, a 2021 2nd round draft pick will be sent instead.
2.
BOS
  1. 2020 6th round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Nordström, Joakim
Additional Details:
Any team. Just need a roaster spot and some money
3.
FLA
  1. Heinen, Danton [RFA Rights]
  2. 2020 1st round pick (BOS)
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (BOS)
  4. 2021 3rd round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
Conditional 2021 4th round draft pick: If Dadonov scores over 70 points in 2020 or the Bruins win the cup in 2020, a 2021 3th round draft pick will also be sent.
4.
BOS
  1. Gagner, Sam ($1,250,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Just a depth trade. Rather 2 depth towards than 2 depth Dman. Plus our AHL team have great D depth anyways.
EDM
  1. Moore, John
  2. 2021 5th round pick (BOS)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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Logo of the NYR
Logo of the BOS
Logo of the NYR
2020
Logo of the BOS
Logo of the BOS
Logo of the CHI
Logo of the BOS
2021
Logo of the BOS
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Logo of the BOS
Logo of the BOS
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,000,000$79,414,667$0$2,220,000$2,585,333

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$6,875,000$6,875,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$6,666,667$6,666,667
RW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$450,000$450K)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$1,625,000$1,625,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$3,200,000$3,200,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$925,000$925,000
C, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$1,275,000$1,275,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$2,000,000$2,000,000 (Performance Bonus$1,750,000$2M)
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$7,000,000$7,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$3,333,000$3,333,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,585,000$1,585,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$725,000$725,000 (Performance Bonus$20,000$20K)
RD
UFA - 1

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Apr. 11, 2019 at 8:40 a.m.
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Eric Staal just turned down a chance to go to free agency to sign for pennies on the dollar in minnesota. He’s not leaving
Apr. 11, 2019 at 8:58 a.m.
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I don't hate the overall concept, but...

Staal isn't going anywhere as he just re-signed on a good deal & I believe he said, he would not waive for Boston. Also, This is an overpay. I know you are shedding backes' contract, but Senyshyn looked like he could play in the NHL as early as next year. He has unreal speed and he didn't strike me as weak on his skates (Like Donato).

Nordstrom - Fine, but I am not sure it will happen. I think they like having a couple NHL ready guys at the end of the roster - for 1m - I'd rather have him sit on the bench and be ready if someone gets hurt. He can skate and is oddly physical for a toothpick.

Heinen - I like Dadonov, but he is already 30 and this is a young man's game. I think he will have a big year next year with Barkov & Trocheck healthy and the fact he is Russian and in a contract year, but I see him turning into a 6m cap hit with 19 goals in 2-3 years. I think I would rather take my chances on Heinen. No Doubt he struggled this year, but at times he really looks like he can play. 47 points as a Rookie is not easy. I'd rather wait him out as the cheaper and "potential" option.

Moore - Why? Shed a little salary, but I'd rather just move him for picks. Personally - I see Miller as odd man out. I think he has more value because he should be a top 4, but he cannot stay healthy. I have to think Krug's time is limited as well.

I feel like you are ignoring their prospects. All of these guys have a realistic chance of making the team.
Vaakanainan
Studnicka
Lauko
Frederic
Lauzon
Zboril
Bjork
Senyshyn (traded)
JFK (traded)
Apr. 11, 2019 at 1:27 p.m.
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Sorry, just can't stomach that draft futures board!
You plan to take on 3-oldtimers for jettisoning 3-of-your-own and 'change' (re: youth)!

Why?

NHL is undergoing an unprecedented youth movement.
League-wide, the Bruins have shown to be one of the premier teams at leading this new movement - don't mess with it!!
Apr. 12, 2019 at 7:50 a.m.
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Quoting: Propeller09
I don't hate the overall concept, but...

Staal isn't going anywhere as he just re-signed on a good deal & I believe he said, he would not waive for Boston. Also, This is an overpay. I know you are shedding backes' contract, but Senyshyn looked like he could play in the NHL as early as next year. He has unreal speed and he didn't strike me as weak on his skates (Like Donato).

Nordstrom - Fine, but I am not sure it will happen. I think they like having a couple NHL ready guys at the end of the roster - for 1m - I'd rather have him sit on the bench and be ready if someone gets hurt. He can skate and is oddly physical for a toothpick.

Heinen - I like Dadonov, but he is already 30 and this is a young man's game. I think he will have a big year next year with Barkov & Trocheck healthy and the fact he is Russian and in a contract year, but I see him turning into a 6m cap hit with 19 goals in 2-3 years. I think I would rather take my chances on Heinen. No Doubt he struggled this year, but at times he really looks like he can play. 47 points as a Rookie is not easy. I'd rather wait him out as the cheaper and "potential" option.

Moore - Why? Shed a little salary, but I'd rather just move him for picks. Personally - I see Miller as odd man out. I think he has more value because he should be a top 4, but he cannot stay healthy. I have to think Krug's time is limited as well.

I feel like you are ignoring their prospects. All of these guys have a realistic chance of making the team.
Vaakanainan
Studnicka
Lauko
Frederic
Lauzon
Zboril
Bjork
Senyshyn (traded)
JFK (traded)


I know, buts its an all in. An older team with veteran experience is better than some young guys. I don't know Staal got an extension. I agree with you but this is an all in, not a build your team around young players.
Apr. 12, 2019 at 7:51 a.m.
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Quoting: McGruff
Sorry, just can't stomach that draft futures board!
You plan to take on 3-oldtimers for jettisoning 3-of-your-own and 'change' (re: youth)!

Why?

NHL is undergoing an unprecedented youth movement.
League-wide, the Bruins have shown to be one of the premier teams at leading this new movement - don't mess with it!!


This is an all in, not a build a youth team. If we wait, Bergeron, Marchand, Rask, Halak, Krejci will be out of form by the time we build a team with youth. Its all or nothing
Apr. 12, 2019 at 7:51 a.m.
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Eric Staal just turned down a chance to go to free agency to sign for pennies on the dollar in minnesota. He’s not leaving


I did not realize
Apr. 12, 2019 at 9:07 a.m.
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This is an all in, not a build a youth team. If we wait, Bergeron, Marchand, Rask, Halak, Krejci will be out of form by the time we build a team with youth. Its all or nothing


I guess my question is why does "All-in" have to at the expense of young talent? If you look at a team like Tampa - they have a ton of home grown talent (Joseph, Cirelli, parquette, point, Erne, Cernak). Plus their core guys (which the Bruins have). What you need to do in my opinion is draft and develop.

I guess my point is - the Bruins have a better chance of winning if Studnicka or Lauko turn into a brayden point type player than bringing in an aging vet on his back 9 or winger who can score, but is fairly invisible.

All-In - to me is trading Studnicka and/or Vaakanainan for an impact player (preferably with some term) I don't think Dadanov or Staal being guys that move the needle. Just like I don't see JT miller or Killorn being the guys that move the needle for Tampa. They are nice players that get to take advantage of the other team focusing on the real difference makers.

If you are talking about Studnicka, Vaakanainan and 1st+for Barkov - I am fine with that, but as you said, their core is aging - I do not want to add two guys on the wrong side of 30 to that equation, so in two years they have no youth and are all 35+
Apr. 12, 2019 at 7:54 p.m.
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I guess my question is why does "All-in" have to at the expense of young talent? If you look at a team like Tampa - they have a ton of home grown talent (Joseph, Cirelli, parquette, point, Erne, Cernak). Plus their core guys (which the Bruins have). What you need to do in my opinion is draft and develop.

I guess my point is - the Bruins have a better chance of winning if Studnicka or Lauko turn into a brayden point type player than bringing in an aging vet on his back 9 or winger who can score, but is fairly invisible.

All-In - to me is trading Studnicka and/or Vaakanainan for an impact player (preferably with some term) I don't think Dadanov or Staal being guys that move the needle. Just like I don't see JT miller or Killorn being the guys that move the needle for Tampa. They are nice players that get to take advantage of the other team focusing on the real difference makers.

If you are talking about Studnicka, Vaakanainan and 1st+for Barkov - I am fine with that, but as you said, their core is aging - I do not want to add two guys on the wrong side of 30 to that equation, so in two years they have no youth and are all 35+


Look, we aren't Tampa so don't compare. I know the Bruins have more chance of a cup if we develop our prospects but Bergeron and Marchand and Krejci would be gone by that time. It takes time. I get you when you say that Stall and Dadanov isn't the exact superstars we should go for. Still, Dadanov is a really good player in himself and has a 70 point season if I am not mistaken. Also, Stall is decent on the 2nd line with a struggling team so... I wouldn't discredit him that much. Lastly yes, Bruins are better to build a young core but still, whos our 1C, 1LW, 1LD in the future? Not really any prospects could fit into the positions of Bergeron, Marchand, or Chara (in his prime). So I ask you, do we go all in for a tank to get some to picks to get some top players or do we go all in? By all in, I mean the CBJ all in
 
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