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Tor Big Trade and Karlsson

Created by: CaptJosef
Team: 2019-20 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: May 1, 2019
Published: May 1, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Toronto gets Marleau to wave his NMC because they re-sign him at around $1m - he still makes more money than he would be getting.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,250,000
7$5,200,000
2$3,200,000
2$1,800,000
3$4,000,000
2$775,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$10,500,000
2$2,250,000
2$750,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Friedman, Mark
  2. Gudas, Radko ($1,675,000 retained)
  3. Laughton, Scott [RFA Rights]
  4. 2020 1st round pick (PHI)
  5. 2021 3rd round pick (PHI)
2.
PHI
  1. 2020 7th round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. MacDonald, Andrew
  2. 2020 3rd round pick (PHI)
3.
BUF
  1. Hägg, Robert
  2. Voracek, Jakub
  3. 2019 3rd round pick (NJD)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2019
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2020
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2021
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,000,000$76,199,721$0$3,607,500$6,800,279
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,137,500$4,137,500
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$4,333,333$4,333,333
C
UFA - 3
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$5,200,000$5,200,000
RW, LW
UFA - 6
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
C, RW
UFA - 1
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$894,166$894,166 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
C
UFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD
UFA - 6
$10,500,000$10,500,000
RD
UFA - 8
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$730,833$730,833 (Performance Bonus$132,500$132K)
G
RFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$678,889$678,889
RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LD, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1

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May 1, 2019 at 8:08 a.m.
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So we take on Marleau and still overpay for the remaining pieces. Pass.
May 1, 2019 at 8:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Pmwalker
So we take on Marleau and still overpay for the remaining pieces. Pass.


Overpay for Kadri and Kapenen? Most people are happy to offer sheet Kapenen at a loss of a 1st and a 3rd. that leaves Kadri, a solid 2C on a good deal, for Laughton, Gudas, and Friedman - all pieces that are good but expendable and help shore up the Leafs. Taking on Marleau is want gets the deal done and we can afford it.
May 1, 2019 at 8:45 a.m.
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Overpay for Kadri and Kapenen? Most people are happy to offer sheet Kapenen at a loss of a 1st and a 3rd. that leaves Kadri, a solid 2C on a good deal, for Laughton, Gudas, and Friedman - all pieces that are good but expendable and help shore up the Leafs. Taking on Marleau is want gets the deal done and we can afford it.



Quoting: CaptJosef
Overpay for Kadri and Kapenen? Most people are happy to offer sheet Kapenen at a loss of a 1st and a 3rd. that leaves Kadri, a solid 2C on a good deal, for Laughton, Gudas, and Friedman - all pieces that are good but expendable and help shore up the Leafs. Taking on Marleau is want gets the deal done and we can afford it.


Yes it’s an overpay especially if we take on Marleau.


Kapanen is nothing special. I’d rather keep the picks especially 11oa


So that leaves Laughton,Gudas and Friedman for Kadri and Marleau. Considering Marleau is a negative at this point how’s that not an overpayment from Philly.
May 1, 2019 at 8:47 a.m.
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Actually I think this is one of the more fair multi player trade for both teams that include Marleau. Not sure if the Leafs can legally do the "Orpik".
But a good thought CaptJosef.
May 1, 2019 at 9:41 a.m.
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Kapanen is nothing special. I’d rather keep the picks especially 11oa


It's not the 11th overall pick it's the 2020 1st rounder which shouldn't really even be a lottery pick, obviously it's have some sort of lottery condition on it.

Kapenen is fast and skilled, that's a good add, and Kadri adds goals and centre depth, both things we need. If you think they're bad players then of course it'll seem like an overpay. I think they're good players.
May 1, 2019 at 9:43 a.m.
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Actually I think this is one of the more fair multi player trade for both teams that include Marleau. Not sure if the Leafs can legally do the "Orpik".
But a good thought CaptJosef.


Cheers. Nothing in the rules about trading a guy to another team who buy him out so you can re-sign him cheaper. You can't immediately re-sign a guy you just bought out yourself though, you have to wait at least a year (I think?) before you can do that.
May 1, 2019 at 2:01 p.m.
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Quoting: CaptJosef
It's not the 11th overall pick it's the 2020 1st rounder which shouldn't really even be a lottery pick, obviously it's have some sort of lottery condition on it.

Kapenen is fast and skilled, that's a good add, and Kadri adds goals and centre depth, both things we need. If you think they're bad players then of course it'll seem like an overpay. I think they're good players.


I’d easily take Frost/Farabee long term over Kapanen and Kadri. Why are we adding players when we have prospects ready to transition. It’s time to take the lumps and play the youth.
May 1, 2019 at 2:07 p.m.
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I’d easily take Frost/Farabee long term over Kapanen and Kadri. Why are we adding players when we have prospects ready to transition. It’s time to take the lumps and play the youth.


Because that's what Fletcher said his plan is. He plans to fill roster spots with players rather than leave them open for the youth. It's not like Frost, Farabee, and Ratcliffe won't learn anything in the AHL.
May 2, 2019 at 6:27 p.m.
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Flyers fans sure have high hopes for Kapanen. Oh boy would they be pissed go actually watch him play and not look at a stats sheet. If his ass was nothing lugged around by Matthews all season he is a plug looking at 1-2 mil
May 3, 2019 at 4:28 a.m.
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Flyers fans sure have high hopes for Kapanen. Oh boy would they be pissed go actually watch him play and not look at a stats sheet. If his ass was nothing lugged around by Matthews all season he is a plug looking at 1-2 mil


I've seen a fair bit of him play and while his points are obviously inflated of you're looking for a middle 6 winger with speed and some skill he fits the bill.
May 3, 2019 at 5:39 a.m.
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I've seen a fair bit of him play and while his points are obviously inflated of you're looking for a middle 6 winger with speed and some skill he fits the bill.


He is horrid defensively and when not with Matthews (best 5 on 5 goal scorer in the world right now) he was a gas can. He will get 2.5 -3 top
May 3, 2019 at 6:05 a.m.
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He is horrid defensively and when not with Matthews (best 5 on 5 goal scorer in the world right now) he was a gas can. He will get 2.5 -3 top


Again, I get that playing with a great player inflates numbers but he's here to play on the 3rd line and played fine away from Matthews and Tavares. He's not getting paid like a star here.
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