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Minor moves assuming D prospects arent ready

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Team: 2019-20 Chicago Blackhawks
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Published: May 18, 2019
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May 18, 2019 at 9:09 p.m.
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You can’t be serious with this habs trade ?
May 18, 2019 at 9:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Poehling
You can’t be serious with this habs trade ?


I was searching for a team that could afford anisimov and this is what I stumbled upon. I don't think it's as far off as you imply but what would you suggest
May 18, 2019 at 9:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Socially_Hawkward_Podcast
I was searching for a team that could afford anisimov and this is what I stumbled upon. I don't think it's as far off as you imply but what would you suggest


Beaudin + Anisimov + 2nd round pick + something else.
May 18, 2019 at 9:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Poehling
Beaudin + Anisimov + a pick


You really value danault that high? That's a hard pass.
May 18, 2019 at 9:23 p.m.
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You really value danault that high? That's a hard pass.


Danault is Mtl #1 center & no ones is close from is defensive skills. I think it would be more than that because no ones can replace Danault for the moment. Poehling Suzuki or Kotkaniemi needs to prove they can play against other team top line before MTL trade Danault
May 18, 2019 at 9:24 p.m.
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Anisimov is essentially a negative in any trade for a good player. So it would take more to get Danault.

Gonna take way more to get Hagg.
May 18, 2019 at 9:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Poehling
Danault is Mtl #1 center & no ones is close from is defensive skills. I think it would be more than that because no ones can replace Danault for the moment. Poehling Suzuki or Kotkaniemi needs to prove they can play against other team top line before MTL trade Danault


What happened to domi being the number 1 center?
I was making this trade under the assumption that domi was 1 and either kotkaniemi or poehling would be 2 and danault would be 3. If you want danault as you #1 then yeah you definitely shouldn't take this trade
May 18, 2019 at 9:28 p.m.
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Anisimov is essentially a negative in any trade for a good player. So it would take more to get Danault.

Gonna take way more to get Hagg.


I thought that about hagg also but after seeing a bunch of Philly fans on here, they all either scratch him or trade him for a third.
I'd up the pick in the anisimov trade to a 2nd but he is not a negative
May 18, 2019 at 9:44 p.m.
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What happened to domi being the number 1 center?
I was making this trade under the assumption that domi was 1 and either kotkaniemi or poehling would be 2 and danault would be 3. If you want danault as you #1 then yeah you definitely shouldn't take this trade


Domi put 72 points, but Danault is playing against other team best line, play on the PK & still get 54 points. You can pick whoever are the 1st Center, but Poehling is going to play a year in the AHL with Suzuki. Kotkaniemi will be 19 yo, he’s not ready to play 2nd Center
May 18, 2019 at 9:45 p.m.
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Domi put 72 points, but Danault is playing against other team best line, play on the PK & still get 54 points. You can pick whoever are the 1st Center, but Poehling is going to play a year in the AHL with Suzuki. Kotkaniemi will be 19 yo, he’s not ready to play 2nd Center


Sounds like you can use a guy like anisimov whose contract is up right when your guys are ready
May 18, 2019 at 10:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Socially_Hawkward_Podcast
Sounds like you can use a guy like anisimov whose contract is up right when your guys are ready


Habs don't want Anisimov, and it's gonna be tough to get Danault from them. I would absolutely be willing, after Suzuki and KK begin performing like top 6 forwards, to pay the Beaudin + 2nd + minor roster player for him. Maybe next summer.
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May 19, 2019 at 12:37 a.m.
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Habs don't want Anisimov, and it's gonna be tough to get Danault from them. I would absolutely be willing, after Suzuki and KK begin performing like top 6 forwards, to pay the Beaudin + 2nd + minor roster player for him. Maybe next summer.


You'd give up Beaudin plus for a third line center? Glad you're not the gm
May 19, 2019 at 12:48 a.m.
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You'd give up Beaudin plus for a third line center? Glad you're not the gm


If you think Danault is a 3rd line center you are delusional. He just put up 50+ points this year and is one of the best defensive forwards in the league. He is a 2nd line center on a good team. If we draft Byram, I would gladly give up a surplus prospect in Beaudin and a pick to have one of the best center cores in the league with Toews, Strome and Danault. If you think that makes me a bad GM, you need to get your head out of your ass.
May 19, 2019 at 12:58 a.m.
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If you think Danault is a 3rd line center you are delusional. He just put up 50+ points this year and is one of the best defensive forwards in the league. He is a 2nd line center on a good team. If we draft Byram, I would gladly give up a surplus prospect in Beaudin and a pick to have one of the best center cores in the league with Toews, Strome and Danault. If you think that makes me a bad GM, you need to get your head out of your ass.


You said danault is a 2nd line center then put him behind toews and strome.. That's third line bud.
Yes he had a good year playing minutes he wouldn't see and getting opportunities he wouldn't get on a good team. You can't make trades based on a players value to the team he's on. You have to make trades based on the value he'd have on your team. If he costs Beaudin you just hang up the phone and move on.
May 19, 2019 at 2:14 a.m.
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You said danault is a 2nd line center then put him behind toews and strome.. That's third line bud.
Yes he had a good year playing minutes he wouldn't see and getting opportunities he wouldn't get on a good team. You can't make trades based on a players value to the team he's on. You have to make trades based on the value he'd have on your team. If he costs Beaudin you just hang up the phone and move on.


Dude...just because someone plays on the 3rd line doesn't mean they're a 3rd liner. Center depth is one of the most important things for cup contending teams to have. Look at any of the last few cup winners: Backstrom/Kuznetsov/Eller, Crosby/Malkin/Bonino, Kopitar/Carter/Richards, even we had it with Toews/Richards/Vermette in 2015. Just think for a moment what having Toews/Strome/Danault would mean for the team. We could roll 3 dominant lines every game, Toews/Kane on 1, Cat/Strome on 2, and Saad/Danault on 3 with the rest of the forwards filled in from there. That kind of depth is championship caliber, if you find the right wingers to flank those lines. Maybe he wouldn't be getting the 2nd line minutes that he was getting in Montreal, but he'd still get the PK minutes, be playing with at least one top six winger in Saad, and even if he produced 40 points he would be worth the price.

Now lets think about the defenseman situation. By 2020-21, the defensemen we will have under contract are: Keith, Seabrook, Murphy, Jokiharju, Dahlstrom, Boqvist, Beaudin, Krys, Carlsson, Gilbert. The last 3 would almost assuredly be in Rockford, but we can begin to fill in the 7 open defensemen slots.

Keith and Jokiharju are all but locks for the top 6. It's unlikely for Seabs to be traded soon, so he will either be playing bottom pairing or depth. Boqvist should make the team by 20-21. That's four spots gone. Then, say they draft Byram, which I believe they absolutely should. He would also be ready by 20-21. That leaves two spots for: Murphy, Beaudin, Mitchell, Dahlstrom, Koekkoek, Forsling. You might say 'just trade Murphy and put the two rookies in'. Any team with three, let alone FOUR rookie defensemen in its starting lineup won't go very far, so Beaudin and Mitchell would not be making the team together. So, under this scenario the defense would look something like this:

Keith - Boqvist
Byram - Jokiharju
??? - Murphy
Seabrook

That question mark can be filled by one of Beaudin and Mitchell. Given that Mitchell will be more NHL ready coming out of college, and that Beaudin has more trade value, it seems to be in our best interest to convert him, as part of our defensive prospect surplus, into productive forward help. I'm not saying that it has to be Danault. I just proposed a trade on here that had us giving Beaudin for Jason Robertson. But either way, assuming our prospects continue to develop into NHL caliber player, and especially if they draft Byram, something has to give with the defensive backlog. To say that we should 'hang up' if GM's ask for one of our defensive prospects is short minded and bad for this team.
 
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