NYI Offseason Moves - My Take - CapFriendly

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Beauvillier, Anthony	3	$1,750,000
Dal Colle, Michael	2	$975,000
Stevens, John	2	$750,000
Marner, Mitchell	8	$11,500,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Fritz, Tanner	2	$750,000
Lehner, Robin	4	$5,000,000
Pickard, Calvin	2	$850,000

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,000,000	$64,821,666	$0	$1,250,000	$18,178,334

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW, C UFA - 2	Nelson, Brock $6,000,000$6,000,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 6	Bailey, Josh $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW, C UFA - 5
Beauvillier, Anthony $1,750,000$1,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Barzal, Mathew $863,333$863,333 ($400,000$400K) C, RW UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell $11,500,000$11,500,000 RW UFA - 6
Dal Colle, Michael $975,000$975,000 LW UFA - 2	Cizikas, Casey $3,350,000$3,350,000 C UFA - 2	Wahlstrom, Oliver $925,000$925,000 RW RFA - 4
Bellows, Kieffer $894,166$894,166 ($212,500$212K) LW, RW UFA - 2	Fritz, Tanner $750,000$750,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Martin, Matt $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Johnston, Ross $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW UFA - 3		Komarov, Leo $3,000,000$3,000,000 RW, LW, C M-NTC UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Toews, Devon $700,000$700,000 LD UFA - 1	Pulock, Ryan $2,000,000$2,000,000 RD UFA - 1	Lehner, Robin $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 1
Pelech, Adam $1,600,000$1,600,000 LD UFA - 2	Dobson, Noah $894,167$894,167 ($537,500$538K) RD RFA - 3
Aho, Sebastian $770,000$770,000 ($100,000$100K) LD UFA - 1		Pickard, Calvin $850,000$850,000 G UFA - 2
Hickey, Thomas $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD UFA - 3	Boychuk, Johnny $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 3

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Clutterbuck, Cal $3,500,000$3,500,000 RW UFA - 3

Power Play 1
Marner, M.	Barzal, M.	Nugent-Hopkins, R.
	Pulock, R.	Bailey, J.

Power Play 2
Wahlstrom, O.	Nelson, B.	Bellows, K.
	Beauvillier, A.	Toews, D.

Penalty Kill 1
	Cizikas, C.	Dal Colle, M.
	Pelech, A.	Boychuk, J.

Penalty Kill 2
	Fritz, T.	Martin, M.
	Toews, D.	Pulock, R.

May 31, 2019 at 11:10 a.m.

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What is the latest on what both Skinner and Lee are asking for?

May 31, 2019 at 11:14 a.m.

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What is the latest on what both Skinner and Lee are asking for?

Reports are stating Skinner is on the verge of signing a 8 year extension with Buffalo for between 8.5 and 9.5 per. Before this news broke, Lee was asking for 7 AAV from the Isles, but the sticking point seemed to be term. Isles want to stay around 4-5 years while Lee was asking for 7 years.

May 31, 2019 at 11:31 a.m.

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Nobody is going to pay Marner 11.5 mil.
My god has everyone actualay legit lost their minds?
Anything over 10.5 gets you 4 1sts and ZERO GM who wants to continue to be employed would give 4 unprotected 1sts for him while taking up nearly 13% of the cap for a winger who cannot drive a line honestly.

May 31, 2019 at 11:38 a.m.

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Nobody is going to pay Marner 11.5 mil.
My god has everyone actualay legit lost their minds?
Anything over 10.5 gets you 4 1sts and ZERO GM who wants to continue to be employed would give 4 unprotected 1sts for him while taking up nearly 13% of the cap for a winger who cannot drive a line honestly.

Marner is going to come in somewhere between Tavares' 11m and Mathews' 11.6m. The kid is 21 years old and just put up 90+ points, someone is going to pay him if the Leafs won't.

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May 31, 2019 at 11:55 a.m.

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Marner is going to come in somewhere between Tavares' 11m and Mathews' 11.6m. The kid is 21 years old and just put up 90+ points, someone is going to pay him if the Leafs won't.

But he won't that's the thing. He's a winger and he's actually not as good as the media says he is. It's been proven many times. Have watched every game he has played and it's laughable right now this 11 mil talk. Every single stat known to man shows his value is about 9-9.25
He also has zero leverage past 10.5 because like I said nobody will pay 4 1sts or the leafs won't match

May 31, 2019 at 11:59 a.m.

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But he won't that's the thing. He's a winger and he's actually not as good as the media says he is. It's been proven many times. Have watched every game he has played and it's laughable right now this 11 mil talk. Every single stat known to man shows his value is about 9-9.25
He also has zero leverage past 10.5 because like I said nobody will pay 4 1sts or the leafs won't match

Isles will. It's already been reported, several times, that Lou is looking at TOR and their CAP situation and is considering signing Marner to an offer sheet. It's also been reported that Marners camp, if no deal is reached with TOR, will be looking at Offer Sheets. Someone is going to pay Marner 11-11.5m per season. And while we are at, Matthews wasn't work 11.6m, but he got it.

May 31, 2019 at 11:59 a.m.

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Quoting: Jangle29

Nobody is going to pay Marner 11.5 mil.
My god has everyone actualay legit lost their minds?
Anything over 10.5 gets you 4 1sts and ZERO GM who wants to continue to be employed would give 4 unprotected 1sts for him while taking up nearly 13% of the cap for a winger who cannot drive a line honestly.

He hasn't lost his mind because he's not offer sheeting he's getting his rights and signing him.. Trading expendable assets (the players he threw in) and 1 first and 2 seconds (potentially 2 seconds) is a steal for marner... could you imagine Marner and Barzal? I'm not an Isles fan but that trade is definitely one of the best I've seen for Marner... I agree, no one should OS him for 4 1sts.

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May 31, 2019 at 12:03 p.m.

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He hasn't lost his mind because he's not offer sheeting he's getting his rights and signing him.. Trading expendable assets (the players he threw in) and 1 first and 2 seconds (potentially 2 seconds) is a steal for marner... could you imagine Marner and Barzal? I'm not an Isles fan but that trade is definitely one of the best I've seen for Marner... I agree, no one should OS him for 4 1sts.

Actually my trade was Mayfield, Wilde, 2 1sts and a 2nd (that could be come a 1st if the Isles wont the cup next year or the year after) but now I'm thinking that might be too much and the Players plus the 2 1st's and the 2nd (no condition) should be enough.

May 31, 2019 at 12:03 p.m.

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Isles will. It's already been reported, several times, that Lou is looking at TOR and their CAP situation and is considering signing Marner to an offer sheet. It's also been reported that Marners camp, if no deal is reached with TOR, will be looking at Offer Sheets. Someone is going to pay Marner 11-11.5m per season. And while we are at, Matthews wasn't work 11.6m, but he got it.

Yes he is though. You are listening the Darren Dreger whom delusional. Matthews is way better than Marner, plays centre, has way better advanced stats all while doing with with 3rd line wingers while Marner had Tavares. I guarantee you are not a leafs fan because for some reason the rest of the league is overrating him.
If the islanders sign him to 4 1sts the leafs will take it and run

May 31, 2019 at 12:07 p.m.

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Quoting: gregb569

He hasn't lost his mind because he's not offer sheeting he's getting his rights and signing him.. Trading expendable assets (the players he threw in) and 1 first and 2 seconds (potentially 2 seconds) is a steal for marner... could you imagine Marner and Barzal? I'm not an Isles fan but that trade is definitely one of the best I've seen for Marner... I agree, no one should OS him for 4 1sts.

Toronto wont trade him though, its that simple. Their choices are
1. Sign him to 9-10.5
2. Let someone sign him to 9-10.5 and match
3.Let someone sign at 10.5+ and take the picks
4. Let him sit.
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They wont trade him, everyone knows this and if they do it will be for something different. It will be so a similar type valued dman

May 31, 2019 at 12:07 p.m.

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Yes he is though. You are listening the Darren Dreger whom delusional. Matthews is way better than Marner, plays centre, has way better advanced stats all while doing with with 3rd line wingers while Marner had Tavares. I guarantee you are not a leafs fan because for some reason the rest of the league is overrating him.
If the islanders sign him to 4 1sts the leafs will take it and run

You're right, I'm an Islanders fan and as an Isles fan I would gladly surrender 4 1sts to sign someone like Marner to play with Barzal. Having two 21 year olds with that much skill and potential for the next 8 years... who wouldn't want that on their team???

But again, this isn't me signing Marner to an offer sheet. A trade was made with Toronto to acquire Marners rights and then he was signed to an extension.

May 31, 2019 at 12:12 p.m.

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You're right, I'm an Islanders fan and as an Isles fan I would gladly surrender 4 1sts to sign someone like Marner to play with Barzal. Having two 21 year olds with that much skill and potential for the next 8 years... who wouldn't want that on their team???

But again, this isn't me signing Marner to an offer sheet. A trade was made with Toronto to acquire Marners rights and then he was signed to an extension.

Marner is not worth 4 unprotected 1st round picks. Lou would be fired making that deal. You are the one and only person who believes he is worth that and yet the people who have watched him for 250 games say he is not.
His with/without Tavares stats are dreadful.
He is a winger not a centre.
He doesnt score goals which is the highest paid skill in the NHL
He is only the 8th-12th best winger, so why pay him like the #1
He is not even the best RFA this summer. Point, Rantanen, Laine, Aho, and maybe even Provorov all have more value than Marner to be honest

May 31, 2019 at 12:22 p.m.

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Marner is not worth 4 unprotected 1st round picks. Lou would be fired making that deal. You are the one and only person who believes he is worth that and yet the people who have watched him for 250 games say he is not.
His with/without Tavares stats are dreadful.
He is a winger not a centre.
He doesnt score goals which is the highest paid skill in the NHL
He is only the 8th-12th best winger, so why pay him like the #1
He is not even the best RFA this summer. Point, Rantanen, Laine, Aho, and maybe even Provorov all have more value than Marner to be honest

Actually, just looking around on here, seems A LOT of people are willing to give up for 1sts for someone like Marner, not just me.

To address your RFA comment - Point is the only one who would actually be worthy of an offer sheet. Colorado has PLENTY of CAP space to match any offer for Rantanen, WPG can sign Laine and make it work and Carolina can also match an Aho offer sheet. The Leafs literally can't match an offer sheet over 10 mil per without having to make a TON of moves to free up space and let several other players walk.

And you may be right, Marner may not be WORTH the 4 1sts, but given the Leafs situation, the Islanders biggest need is RW AND the CAP room to make it work I can see Lou making the offer. Isles ownership isn't going to fire him for this, they gave him the reigns to change the culture of the team, this would certainly do that.

Lastly, Marner put up about 70 pts last season without Tavares and he's only 21 years old. Plus it's not like he's going to be playing with a slouch of a center here in NY, he's going to playing alongside last years Calder Trophy winner and a pretty skilled player himself.

What's really laughable in this era of hockey is that Leafs fans think Marner, after a 94 (I believe) point season is going to sign for less than Tavares who has NEVER had a 90 point season.

May 31, 2019 at 12:27 p.m.

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Marner is not worth 4 unprotected 1st round picks. Lou would be fired making that deal. You are the one and only person who believes he is worth that and yet the people who have watched him for 250 games say he is not.
His with/without Tavares stats are dreadful.
He is a winger not a centre.
He doesnt score goals which is the highest paid skill in the NHL
He is only the 8th-12th best winger, so why pay him like the #1
He is not even the best RFA this summer. Point, Rantanen, Laine, Aho, and maybe even Provorov all have more value than Marner to be honest

Also, forgot to mention, you could argue that is was Marner who made Tavares better. Before playing with Marner Tavares never amassed 40 goals in a season and scored 10 more goals then his highest goal total ever.

May 31, 2019 at 12:33 p.m.

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Actually, just looking around on here, seems A LOT of people are willing to give up for 1sts for someone like Marner, not just me.

To address your RFA comment - Point is the only one who would actually be worthy of an offer sheet. Colorado has PLENTY of CAP space to match any offer for Rantanen, WPG can sign Laine and make it work and Carolina can also match an Aho offer sheet. The Leafs literally can't match an offer sheet over 10 mil per without having to make a TON of moves to free up space and let several other players walk.

And you may be right, Marner may not be WORTH the 4 1sts, but given the Leafs situation, the Islanders biggest need is RW AND the CAP room to make it work I can see Lou making the offer. Isles ownership isn't going to fire him for this, they gave him the reigns to change the culture of the team, this would certainly do that.

Lastly, Marner put up about 70 pts last season without Tavares and he's only 21 years old. Plus it's not like he's going to be playing with a slouch of a center here in NY, he's going to playing alongside last years Calder Trophy winner and a pretty skilled player himself.

What's really laughable in this era of hockey is that Leafs fans think Marner, after a 94 (I believe) point season is going to sign for less than Tavares who has NEVER had a 90 point season.

What is actually laughable is that you think pts is the single most important stat to use. Never mind he is average at best defensively, cant play the most important position which is centre, cannot drive a line on his own, only has a career high of 26 goals, and when tried on the PK the leafs ended up with a record breaking bad PK.
Tavares scored 47 goals last year, Marner will never come close to that
Also I you seem to be adding numbers up wrong because Toronto can match anything they want to 10.5 easily, its just an overpayment. Johnsson and Kapanen are likely traded anyway because they have been more over rated then Marner himself because they play with statistically the best 5 on 5 goal scorer in the world so their value is high. Kadri can also be traded if needed.
Leafs are not in the trouble you other fans are dreaming they are in

May 31, 2019 at 12:35 p.m.

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Also, forgot to mention, you could argue that is was Marner who made Tavares better. Before playing with Marner Tavares never amassed 40 goals in a season and scored 10 more goals then his highest goal total ever.

Marner certainly made Tavares better but not to the point some people want to think. When Marner spent the 10-20% of the year away from Tavares he was statistically the worst player on the team. That tells you something. That stats dont lie. Its pretty convincing from a stats view and an eye test view.

May 31, 2019 at 12:47 p.m.

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Marner certainly made Tavares better but not to the point some people want to think. When Marner spent the 10-20% of the year away from Tavares he was statistically the worst player on the team. That tells you something. That stats dont lie. Its pretty convincing from a stats view and an eye test view.

First, coming to NY he wouldn't need to drive the line, Barzal does that quite well. Second, Marner's goal totals have gone up each year, playing with another skilled playmaker (Barzal) I can see him finding the net a few more times and getting over the 30 goal mark (possibly hitting 35). The flip side of that is, Marner's play making ability can also have the same effect on Barzal who scored 22 goals his rookie year. Third, He'd be joining a team that just had the best 1 year turn around defensively in 100 years under Barry Trotz, I'm confident Trotz can turn even Marner into an adequate defensive player.

May 31, 2019 at 12:48 p.m.

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What is actually laughable is that you think pts is the single most important stat to use. Never mind he is average at best defensively, cant play the most important position which is centre, cannot drive a line on his own, only has a career high of 26 goals, and when tried on the PK the leafs ended up with a record breaking bad PK.
Tavares scored 47 goals last year, Marner will never come close to that
Also I you seem to be adding numbers up wrong because Toronto can match anything they want to 10.5 easily, its just an overpayment. Johnsson and Kapanen are likely traded anyway because they have been more over rated then Marner himself because they play with statistically the best 5 on 5 goal scorer in the world so their value is high. Kadri can also be traded if needed.
Leafs are not in the trouble you other fans are dreaming they are in

I don't believe points is the single most important stat to use, but come on man, 94 points is 94 points. If they Isles had Marner on their team this year, it's quite possible we'd be playing for the cup right now.

May 31, 2019 at 12:51 p.m.

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What is actually laughable is that you think pts is the single most important stat to use. Never mind he is average at best defensively, cant play the most important position which is centre, cannot drive a line on his own, only has a career high of 26 goals, and when tried on the PK the leafs ended up with a record breaking bad PK.
Tavares scored 47 goals last year, Marner will never come close to that
Also I you seem to be adding numbers up wrong because Toronto can match anything they want to 10.5 easily, its just an overpayment. Johnsson and Kapanen are likely traded anyway because they have been more over rated then Marner himself because they play with statistically the best 5 on 5 goal scorer in the world so their value is high. Kadri can also be traded if needed.
Leafs are not in the trouble you other fans are dreaming they are in

Oops, forgot to address the CAP point - I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers, but according to this site, next season the leafs have 8.8m in CAP space under the projected 83mil CAP. They also have 7 RFA/UFA players to sign to hit the 23 player roster size including Marner. If they matched a 10.5 million offer sheet for Marner they would be over the cap by almost 2 million and not able to fill the other 6 spots on the roster, without making several more moves.

May 31, 2019 at 12:53 p.m.

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Oops, forgot to address the CAP point - I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers, but according to this site, next season the leafs have 8.8m in CAP space under the projected 83mil CAP. They also have 7 RFA/UFA players to sign to hit the 23 player roster size including Marner. If they matched a 10.5 million offer sheet for Marner they would be over the cap by almost 2 million and not able to fill the other 6 spots on the roster, without making several more moves.

Horton goes on LTIR and Zaitsev and Marleau will be traded soon. Thats about what 25 mil space? I think they are fine
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1134497823481892864

May 31, 2019 at 12:58 p.m.

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Horton goes on LTIR and Zaitsev and Marleau will be traded soon. Thats about what 25 mil space? I think they are fine
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/1134497823481892864

Neither of those are foregone conclusions. Marleau has to approve any trade, and he hasn't seemed very inclined to do that yet and as the article says, Kings would need to move a contract to make it work... seems like a lot of obstacles to clear before you can guarantee that 6+m is available.

Zaitsev is probably more movable and has requested a trade, but you still gotta find someone willing to take on a 4.5m cap hit and hope Zaitsev returns to his rookie form.

Then there is the last piece of information - The Leafs have to actually agree to a deal with Marner. Seems they are low-balling and hoping they can get him at a "home town" discount, when Marner is asking for way more money. If they don't bridge that gap and Marner is available come July 1st all bets are off. And if someone does in fact offer Marner 11-11.5m the Leafs aren't going to match, so he leaves anyway.

May 31, 2019 at 1:45 p.m.

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Neither of those are foregone conclusions. Marleau has to approve any trade, and he hasn't seemed very inclined to do that yet and as the article says, Kings would need to move a contract to make it work... seems like a lot of obstacles to clear before you can guarantee that 6+m is available.

Zaitsev is probably more movable and has requested a trade, but you still gotta find someone willing to take on a 4.5m cap hit and hope Zaitsev returns to his rookie form.

Then there is the last piece of information - The Leafs have to actually agree to a deal with Marner. Seems they are low-balling and hoping they can get him at a "home town" discount, when Marner is asking for way more money. If they don't bridge that gap and Marner is available come July 1st all bets are off. And if someone does in fact offer Marner 11-11.5m the Leafs aren't going to match, so he leaves anyway.

Id rather him leave than pay him 11-12 mil. So ill be happy turning those 4 1sts into something better.
The leafs could even overpay for Panarin at 11-12 mil if he would come replace Marner and pocket those picks
Lots of options

Jun. 1, 2019 at 9:47 a.m.

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Id rather him leave than pay him 11-12 mil. So ill be happy turning those 4 1sts into something better.
The leafs could even overpay for Panarin at 11-12 mil if he would come replace Marner and pocket those picks
Lots of options

Leafs fans really are in denial here, aren’t they... You have at most 15m in cap space and 6 open spots to field a team and you think you can afford to pay any one player 11-12 million? Doesn’t leave you any room to sign your other RFAs and upgrade your D, which is your biggest area of concern. And don’t even start with the “we can move Marleau to free up CAP space” routine, he isn’t retiring and has said he has no intentions of leaving the Leafs since he wants to win a cup and feels TOR gives him the best chance.

Besides, Panarin isn’t coming to TOR, he wants to play for a NY team or a FL team and the Panthers, Rangers and Islanders will all be in on him so he’ll be playing for one of those teams... not the Leafs.

Jun. 1, 2019 at 2:38 p.m.

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Leafs fans really are in denial here, aren’t they... You have at most 15m in cap space and 6 open spots to field a team and you think you can afford to pay any one player 11-12 million? Doesn’t leave you any room to sign your other RFAs and upgrade your D, which is your biggest area of concern. And don’t even start with the “we can move Marleau to free up CAP space” routine, he isn’t retiring and has said he has no intentions of leaving the Leafs since he wants to win a cup and feels TOR gives him the best chance.

Besides, Panarin isn’t coming to TOR, he wants to play for a NY team or a FL team and the Panthers, Rangers and Islanders will all be in on him so he’ll be playing for one of those teams... not the Leafs.

We can just wait another month or less. You are not grasping the fact over 10.5 the leafs won't match because it's not worth it. So they dont need to give him that.
Besides the fact no GM is going to give up that. But you seem to be lost I'm media hype so you will see I guess

Jun. 3, 2019 at 8:23 a.m.

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We can just wait another month or less. You are not grasping the fact over 10.5 the leafs won't match because it's not worth it. So they dont need to give him that.
Besides the fact no GM is going to give up that. But you seem to be lost I'm media hype so you will see I guess

And you seem to be wrapped up in the fact that a talent like Marner, who is on the record REPEATEDLY stating he won't accept anything less than 11m per, will suddenly have a change of heart and take 2-3m less just to play for the Leafs. He may be a loyal Leafs boy now, but in a month when the Leafs are low balling him he's gonna turn and start looking at offer sheets. Everyone knows this, except for delusional Leafs fans.

Also, to go back to an earlier point, my post WASN'T an offer sheet for Marner, it was a trade and sign... which you seem to be obviously ignoring to stir up an argument.

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