A more likely Marner offer sheet

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Created by: JayTea

Team: 2019-20 Minnesota Wild

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 21, 2019

Published: Jun. 21, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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NOT MINNESOTA MAKING THE OFFER, BUT THE AMOUNT IS THE POINT!!!!!!!

$10.5m for 5 years, Toronto will probably match but the compensation is only 2 1st round picks, a 2nd and a 3rd which is worth it for a definite impact player. Not saying Minnesota should do this, because Fenton supposedly hates offer sheets but it's worth mentioning because so many Toronto fans keep saying they'll get 4 1st round picks on an offer sheet when that isn't a definite thing.

On a side note, burying Rask in the minors is the path Fenton should take if he can't fix his issues working with a skating coach over the summer. They can buy him out next year if they need the cap space for Spurgeon's new deal.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Marner, Mitchell	5	$10,500,000
Belpedio, Louis	1	$850,000
Sturm, Nico	1	$950,000
Eriksson Ek, Joel	2	$1,500,000
Donato, Ryan	2	$2,250,000
Fiala, Kevin	2	$2,250,000

Offer Sheets

Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years

PLAYER	AAV	COMPENSATION
Marner, Mitchell	$10,500,000	2020 1st round pick 2020 2nd round pick 2020 3rd round pick 2021 1st round pick

Buyouts

Tyler Ennis: $1,216,667

Buried

Victor Rask: $925,000 ($2,000,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$81,500,000	$75,528,591	$0	$1,100,000	$5,971,409

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Zucker, Jason $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 4	Staal, Eric $1,625,000$1,625,000 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Marner, Mitchell $10,500,000$10,500,000 RW UFA - 6
Fiala, Kevin $2,250,000$2,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Kunin, Luke $925,000$925,000 ($600,000$600K) RW, C RFA - 1	Donato, Ryan $2,250,000$2,250,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 2
Parise, Zach $7,538,462$7,538,462 LW NMC UFA - 6	Eriksson Ek, Joel $1,500,000$1,500,000 C UFA - 2	Mayhew, Gerald $700,000$700,000 C, RW UFA - 2
Greenway, Jordan $916,666$916,666 ($500,000$500K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Sturm, Nico $950,000$950,000 C UFA - 1	Foligno, Marcus $2,875,000$2,875,000 RW, LW UFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Suter, Ryan $7,538,462$7,538,462 LD NMC UFA - 6	Dumba, Matt $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD UFA - 4	Dubnyk, Devan $2,166,667$2,166,667 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Brodin, Jonas $4,166,667$4,166,667 LD UFA - 2	Spurgeon, Jared $5,187,500$5,187,500 RD NMC UFA - 1	Stalock, Alex $785,000$785,000 G UFA - 3
Seeler, Nick $725,000$725,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Pateryn, Greg $2,250,000$2,250,000 RD UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Brown, J.T. $687,500$687,500 RW UFA - 1	Koivu, Mikko $5,500,000$5,500,000 C NMC UFA - 1
Belpedio, Louis $850,000$850,000 RD UFA - 1

Jun. 21, 2019 at 7:03 p.m.

JayTea

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Toronto fans: what should Dubas do if this happens? This would really put them in a bind to make other moves, which could force a bad trade since they'll have 7 days to match or lose Marner.

Jun. 21, 2019 at 7:05 p.m.

TyFrench17

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Leaf fans aren’t assuming it is 4 first they are saying that the Leafs will match anything under the 10.59.

Jun. 21, 2019 at 7:06 p.m.

Laudan

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Again....we are matching everything up till 10,568,590, after, we take 4 x 1st

Few variations insight here :

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1241170

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Jun. 21, 2019 at 7:10 p.m.

JayTea

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Quoting: Laudan

Again....we are matching everything up till 10,568,590, after, we take 4 x 1st

Few variations insight here :

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1241170

That's assuming Marleau gets moved, which if I'm LA that's going to cost a lot more if the Leafs are trying to become cap compliant after taking on Marner's $10.5m offer sheet match. There's a ton of leverage for LA, because Marleau seems to only be willing to go to a handful of teams to begin with.

Jun. 21, 2019 at 7:10 p.m.

Laudan

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Quoting: JayTea

Check all the variations in first post

Jun. 21, 2019 at 7:11 p.m.

JayTea

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Quoting: TyFrench17

Leaf fans aren’t assuming it is 4 first they are saying that the Leafs will match anything under the 10.59.

But can they? Dubas hasn't found a deal to move Marleau yet and the cap is sounding more and more like it will be between $81.5 and $82m. What would you be willing to have them trade away to make a $10.5m Marner deal work?

Jun. 21, 2019 at 7:14 p.m.

TyFrench17

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Quoting: JayTea

Still over a week until he can sign one then 7 days if he does so lots of time to make the space and a team is allowed to go 10% over the cap during the off-season.

Jun. 21, 2019 at 7:15 p.m.

Laudan

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Quoting: JayTea

He shouldnt panic and seek for any deal......Marners only leverage is Offer-sheet, if / while there wont be any, Dubas will get the upper hand in contract negotiations. He PRed pretty well last night, returning the ball to Ferris and Paul Marner with " if you want we can take offersheet picks and you can play in other town then in your home one where you grew up and you are cropping all the benefits"

Jun. 21, 2019 at 7:15 p.m.

JayTea

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Quoting: Laudan

Check all the variations in first post

I don't see one where Marleau stays and they match a $10.5m x5 offer sheet. the one you have with Marleau staying has them getting 4 1st rounders they use to trade for players.

Jun. 21, 2019 at 7:17 p.m.

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Laudan

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Quoting: JayTea

I don't see one where Marleau stays and they match a $10.5m x5 offer sheet. the one you have with Marleau staying has them getting 4 1st rounders they use to trade for players.

Damn, i missed that angle seems like....on it now...finally something to kill my time at work

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Jun. 21, 2019 at 7:19 p.m.

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JayTea

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Quoting: Laudan

Damn, i missed that angle seems like....on it now...

Thanks, curious to see a Leafs fan perspective on what you'd want the team to keep. For the record, I don't think they get an offer sheet and I think he signs for around $10m or so for 4-6 years. It just creates a fun ACGM topic to try to make all the pieces fit.

Jun. 21, 2019 at 7:22 p.m.

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palhal

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Marner doesn't sign the offer sheet. Leafs would match anyway.

Jun. 21, 2019 at 7:27 p.m.

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palhal

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Quoting: TyFrench17

Still over a week until he can sign one then 7 days if he does so lots of time to make the space and a team is allowed to go 10% over the cap during the off-season.

????? Leafs can sign all their RFAs and be within 10%. Horton's LTIR 5.3m doesn't count. So really the Leafs and all teams have till October to get that 10% down to the cap levei

Jun. 21, 2019 at 7:29 p.m.

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TyFrench17

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Quoting: palhal

????? Leafs can sign all their RFAs and be within 10%. Horton's LTIR 5.3m doesn't count. So really the Leafs and all teams have till October to get that 10% down to the cap levei

Quoting: palhal

????? Leafs can sign all their RFAs and be within 10%. Horton's LTIR 5.3m doesn't count. So really the Leafs and all teams have till October to get that 10% down to the cap levei

No was just referring to matching a Marner offer sheet if need be not all the RFAs.

Jun. 21, 2019 at 7:45 p.m.

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Laudan

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Quoting: JayTea

I don't see one where Marleau stays and they match a $10.5m x5 offer sheet. the one you have with Marleau staying has them getting 4 1st rounders they use to trade for players.

Edited, check last one ( im overpaying as always ), reworked one of old ones, so nevermind the comments

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