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Team: 2019-20 Carolina Hurricanes
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Jul. 2, 2019 at 8:59 a.m.
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If Canes match Aho they are done spending.
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Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:03 a.m.
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Quoting: Gofnut999
If Canes match Aho they are done spending.


We only have 5 years to win the Cup. I could see us getting someone like Mo Jo to help us do that.
Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:10 a.m.
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I wonder if the Canes wish they had 6.25m in Marleau cap space instead of a future first rounder?
Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:10 a.m.
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We only have 5 years to win the Cup. I could see us getting someone like Mo Jo to help us do that.


Have you seem the seen the offer sheet details? 20m in signing bonuses first 2 years. For a team that usually loses $ and has a limited budget this is a problem.
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Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:11 a.m.
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I wonder if the Canes wish they had 6.25m in Marleau cap space instead of a future first rounder?


Cap space is not the problem. They have 20m. It’s the 20m in bonuses the first 2 years and the 5 year term.
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Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:14 a.m.
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Cap space is not the problem.


If by this post the Canes are want to spend 5.5m on a UFA, they only have 2.5m with three roster spots to fill. Then they will bonus carryover into next year. Not having Marleau would have add an additional 6.25m in cap. And Marleau did cost them 3m in actual cash.
Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Have you seem the seen the offer sheet details? 20m in signing bonuses first 2 years. For a team that usually loses $ and has a limited budget this is a problem.


Our owner is not going to lose our franchise player because of the signing bonuses. While that is a concern, I think he knows that we need to ride the high from last season and losing Aho isn't the way to do it.
Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:16 a.m.
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If by this post the Canes are want to spend 5.5m on a UFA, they only have 2.5m with three roster spots to fill. Then they will bonus carryover into next year. Not having Marleau would have add an additional 6.25m in cap. And Marleau did cost them 3m in actual cash.


As i said, if they match, they are done spending. No other UFAs.
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Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:16 a.m.
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I wonder if the Canes wish they had 6.25m in Marleau cap space instead of a future first rounder?


For my scenario, I would have rather had the cap space, but realistically I feel like MoJo is going to get around 6 million from someone so him coming to Carolina won't happen.
Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:16 a.m.
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Our owner is not going to lose our franchise player because of the signing bonuses. While that is a concern, I think he knows that we need to ride the high from last season and losing Aho isn't the way to do it.


You don’t know your owner well then.
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Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:21 a.m.
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You don’t know your owner well then.


No... you don't know this franchise. The canes made enough money in selling season tickets for next year to match that ALONE. You really need to do your research. It's not been matched yet because they want to stop Montreal from spending, they have to leave 300k in cap space because, even with the inflated cap ceiling, they'd be over if they let Aho go, which would result in a bigger penalty. They are going to match this, Waddell has said that in his press conference yesterday (NHLCanes on twitter if you wish to view it). As for the canes owner.... you seem to forget this guy is a MULTI MILLIONAIRE. 21 million for the guy he said wants to keep no matter the cost, is nothing. You really need to do more of your own research before you go commenting on things like this, because you still seem to view this as the team it was under Karmanos, which it isn't.
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Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:27 a.m.
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You don’t know your owner well then.


I'm gonna go ahead and say a fan of the franchise since it came to Carolina would know more about our new owner than a Bruins fan...
Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:27 a.m.
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No... you don't know this franchise. The canes made enough money in selling season tickets for next year to match that ALONE. You really need to do your research. It's not been matched yet because they want to stop Montreal from spending, they have to leave 300k in cap space because, even with the inflated cap ceiling, they'd be over if they let Aho go, which would result in a bigger penalty. They are going to match this, Waddell has said that in his press conference yesterday (NHLCanes on twitter if you wish to view it). As for the canes owner.... you seem to forget this guy is a MULTI MILLIONAIRE. 21 million for the guy he said wants to keep no matter the cost, is nothing. You really need to do more of your own research before you go commenting on things like this, because you still seem to view this as the team it was under Karmanos, which it isn't.


They increased season ticket sales by 4m during the playoff run. Cool your jets.

I fully expect them to match. They can’t afford not to.
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Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:28 a.m.
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No... you don't know this franchise. The canes made enough money in selling season tickets for next year to match that ALONE. You really need to do your research. It's not been matched yet because they want to stop Montreal from spending, they have to leave 300k in cap space because, even with the inflated cap ceiling, they'd be over if they let Aho go, which would result in a bigger penalty. They are going to match this, Waddell has said that in his press conference yesterday (NHLCanes on twitter if you wish to view it). As for the canes owner.... you seem to forget this guy is a MULTI MILLIONAIRE. 21 million for the guy he said wants to keep no matter the cost, is nothing. You really need to do more of your own research before you go commenting on things like this, because you still seem to view this as the team it was under Karmanos, which it isn't.


He's a billionaire, just to help you out, pal!
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Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:34 a.m.
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I'm gonna go ahead and say a fan of the franchise since it came to Carolina would know more about our new owner than a Bruins fan...


I follow more than 1 team. Canes are my 2nd team. You should probably do some reading about him and open your eyes how things have been done since he took over. Just saying.

BTW how much did he lose on the AAF investment? I know, i know, two different things right? Except his bank account is only one thing to him, or anyone for that matter. It affects his decision making on how much he wants to invest of his own capital into the franchise. It’s public knowledge he did not want to go over 6m per on Aho. I think they match because they have no choice really. They don’t they lose the goodwill generated from the playoff run. But he’s not going to be happy about it. Their internal payroll cap is a lot lower than the cap ceiling.
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Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:40 a.m.
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I follow more than 1 team. Canes are my 2nd team. You should probably do some reading about him and open your eyes how things have been done since he took over. Just saying.

BTW how much did he lose on the AAF investment? I know, i know, two different things right? Except his bank account is only one thing to him, or anyone for that matter. It affects his decision making on how much he wants to invest of his own capital into the franchise. It’s public knowledge he did not want to go over 6m per on Aho. I think they match because they have no choice really. They don’t they lose the goodwill generated from the playoff run. But he’s not going to be happy about it. Their internal payroll cap is a lot lower than the cap ceiling.


Your point was that he wasn't going to match the offer because he is cheap but now you're saying that he will match but he won't be happy with it. Regardless of whether he is happy with it, he is going to spend the money on Aho. Because, as you said, he has no choice. So your point about me not knowing our owner because he won't sign our franchise player is thrown out, because you literally agreed he will sign him.
Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:47 a.m.
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Your point was that he wasn't going to match the offer because he is cheap but now you're saying that he will match but he won't be happy with it. Regardless of whether he is happy with it, he is going to spend the money on Aho. Because, as you said, he has no choice. So your point about me not knowing our owner because he won't sign our franchise player is thrown out, because you literally agreed he will sign him.


I did not say he would not much. Reading comprehension...try it.
Jul. 2, 2019 at 9:50 a.m.
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Your point was that he wasn't going to match the offer because he is cheap but now you're saying that he will match but he won't be happy with it. Regardless of whether he is happy with it, he is going to spend the money on Aho. Because, as you said, he has no choice. So your point about me not knowing our owner because he won't sign our franchise player is thrown out, because you literally agreed he will sign him.


After 5 years Aho will come to Montreal and want are the Cans going to do about that.
Jul. 2, 2019 at 10:27 a.m.
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After 5 years Aho will come to Montreal and want are the Cans going to do about that.


If he goes to Montreal after 5 years as a UFA, then that is his right.
Not sure what your point was lmao
Jul. 2, 2019 at 10:28 a.m.
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I did not say he would not much. Reading comprehension...try it.


By saying I don't know our owner implies that he won't match...
Jul. 2, 2019 at 10:30 a.m.
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After 5 years Aho will come to Montreal and want are the Cans going to do about that.


Trade him before then.... not hard. In 5 years, Svech Necas Suzuki and maybe more will be firing at the NHL level, you move him to make space. You get a good return for him.... it's not rocket science. All this has done is f*ucked MTL over because they can't get within 300k of the cap. It's quite a dumb move from Bergevin when he has so many more urgent needs... also remember Domi is an RFA next year, and Kotkaniemi the year after, and Carolina draft more fins than anyone else in the league (Thats a genuine stat btw, they make more than 25% of their picks out of Liiga). Carolina are still in the position of strength here. Don't forget that, one of these teams made the playoffs this year, and got to the 3rd round, the other missed and picked up Cale Caufield...
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Jul. 2, 2019 at 10:32 a.m.
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By saying I don't know our owner implies that he won't match...


He thinks it's the same team this was under Karmanos, when in reality it's anything but. The fact of the matter is he has taken on more salary than he's given up over the course of his trades here. He is not cheaping out, he's just not spending mindlessly, and people are gonna say he wants to set an internal cap and whatever, we know what he's done. We know what our prospect pool looks like, we know why he isn't spending (Svech won't be cheap) We know this, let others speculate my dude
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Jul. 2, 2019 at 10:34 a.m.
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He thinks it's the same team this was under Karmanos, when in reality it's anything but. The fact of the matter is he has taken on more salary than he's given up over the course of his trades here. He is not cheaping out, he's just not spending mindlessly, and people are gonna say he wants to set an internal cap and whatever, we know what he's done. We know what our prospect pool looks like, we know why he isn't spending (Svech won't be cheap) We know this, let others speculate my dude


I really enjoy people underestimating us and thinking they know the team based off of the past.
It's a new era of Canes hockey and if people don't realize that, they're turning a blind eye and that's on them.
Jul. 2, 2019 at 10:36 a.m.
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I really enjoy people underestimating us and thinking they know the team based off of the past.
It's a new era of Canes hockey and if people don't realize that, they're turning a blind eye and that's on them.


Your gm offered 6 millions dollars to aho.EXPLAin that to me.
Jul. 2, 2019 at 10:36 a.m.
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I really enjoy people underestimating us and thinking they know the team based off of the past.
It's a new era of Canes hockey and if people don't realize that, they're turning a blind eye and that's on them.


Very much so.... just a quick reminder... in his last 5 trades, he dumped De Haan because he was injured, he took on the 6.25 mil of Marleau, he took on 2.75 mil of Haula, he shed 100k or whatever with Reimer, but Reimer looks like he's going to play where Darling wasn't which is a good roster move. And the Nino trade... he took on 1.25 mil more, and Nino started to do dumb things....
 
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