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Created by: csick
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jul. 12, 2019
Published: Jul. 12, 2019
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  1. Engvall, Pierre
  2. 2021 3rd round pick (TOR)
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2020
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2022
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23$81,500,000$80,134,699$0$0$1,365,301
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$11,634,000$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 5
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,900,000$1,900,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
C
UFA - 1

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Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:22 a.m.
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No deal. Not a chance. Marner alone is worth more than Dumba and Zucker and even with the salary dump of Ceci, not even close.
Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:23 a.m.
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No deal. Not a chance. Marner alone is worth more than Dumba and Zucker and even with the salary dump of Ceci, not even close.


Huh what
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:25 a.m.
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Quoting: MG1986
No deal. Not a chance. Marner alone is worth more than Dumba and Zucker and even with the salary dump of Ceci, not even close.


Disconnect to reality....
Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:28 a.m.
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Disconnect to reality....


Don't be foolish, and that's ten-fold for @csick. When dealing Mitch Marner, you need to ask yourself, is the pieces coming back worth more than 4 unprotected 1st round draft picks. In this case, Dumba and Zucker, the answer is very clearly no.
Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:29 a.m.
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Don't be foolish, and that's ten-fold for @csick. When dealing Mitch Marner, you need to ask yourself, is the pieces coming back worth more than 4 unprotected 1st round draft picks. In this case, Dumba and Zucker, the answer is very clearly no.


Lol what. Zucker is worth a B prospect and 1st. Dumba is worth like 2 1st rounders and an A- prospect
Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:33 a.m.
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Quoting: MG1986
Don't be foolish, and that's ten-fold for @csick. When dealing Mitch Marner, you need to ask yourself, is the pieces coming back worth more than 4 unprotected 1st round draft picks. In this case, Dumba and Zucker, the answer is very clearly no.


Did he receive an offer sheet for 4 x 1st pick?? NO, Why, because the Marner's value at 11 or 12M isn't that high!!! At 8M, he has a great value, but at over 11M, his value decrease for the other teams
Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:35 a.m.
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Lol what. Zucker is worth a B prospect and 1st. Dumba is worth like 2 1st rounders and an A- prospect


That is not true, not for either.
Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:36 a.m.
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Quoting: MG1986
Don't be foolish, and that's ten-fold for @csick. When dealing Mitch Marner, you need to ask yourself, is the pieces coming back worth more than 4 unprotected 1st round draft picks. In this case, Dumba and Zucker, the answer is very clearly no.


lmaoo that's not how it works
Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:36 a.m.
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That is not true, not for either.


Dumba is a top 2 defenceman. Zucker is a year removed from 30 goals but its cuz Minny wasn't that skilled this year.
Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:37 a.m.
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Did he receive an offer sheet for 4 x 1st pick?? NO, Why, because the Marner's value at 11 or 12M isn't that high!!! At 8M, he has a great value, but at over 11M, his value decrease for the other teams


I don't understand what you are saying. If he is traded or offersheeted, it is because Marner is unwilling to take under $10.5 million on a deal with term. So, anything above that, traded or offersheeted, would need to bring in compensation of such an offersheet or trade equivalent.
Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:38 a.m.
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lmaoo that's not how it works


That is 100% how it works. If the Leafs cannot sign him by the internal deadline they've set for themselves, Mitch can either can find a new team that will pay him more than what the Leafs are offering OR they will trade him for max value, which you can bet will be at least offersheet compensation.
Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:39 a.m.
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I actually do think Minnesota would be desperate enough to do something like this, and those 2 piece make sense for TOR. Honestly, TOR would be insane not to take this deal, right??
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:45 a.m.
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I actually do think Minnesota would be desperate enough to do something like this, and those 2 piece make sense for TOR. Honestly, TOR would be insane not to take this deal, right??


That's what I think. This is a nice defense for 2021 if it happens.
Rielly-Dumba
Dermott-Barrie
Sandin-Liljgren

And you still have:
Hyman, Tavares, Nylander, Johnsson, Matthews, Zucker, Kapanen, Kerfoot, Mikheyev as your top 9
Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:47 a.m.
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That's what I think. This is a nice defense for 2021 if it happens.
Rielly-Dumba
Dermott-Barrie
Sandin-Liljgren

And you still have:
Hyman, Tavares, Nylander, Johnsson, Matthews, Zucker, Kapanen, Kerfoot, Mikheyev as your top 9


Exactly! It balances the team out. Rielly & Dumba would be absurd. Zucker would pot 40 playing with Nylander & Tavares. That team doesn't even look like it's missing anyone after this trade
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Jul. 12, 2019 at 11:49 a.m.
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Exactly! It balances the team out. Rielly & Dumba would be absurd. Zucker would pot 40 playing with Nylander & Tavares. That team doesn't even look like it's missing anyone after this trade


Zucker had 31 goals with good teammates a year ago and still potted 20 this year playing with anchors. Yeah Dumba and Rielly are insane and would destroy the PP
 
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