Now is you who's undervalueting Marner. The kid is just 22 and he had one 69 season and another 94. He's already a real deal and has upside to get even better. I think I'm offering enough. But maybe not enough to Toronto accept. It's possible that better offers than that come to them. I'll try to make another armchairs to get Marner for another possible fits.

Yes, both Nico and Hughes are untouchable. Almost every championship team has an excellent 1-2 Center combination.

toronto wouldn't take this deal and nj wouldnt give it. Toronto would want hischier or hughes (unacceptable) - shero still wouldnt give bratt boqvist and 2 firsts. It's time to contend and we want hall, the only viable option is a 3 year offersheet at 12.5, which quite frankly I'm not interested in. We need player who buy in, crosby, kane, mcdavid, did not ask max dollar, I'm fine paying marner 11.5 or 12 million, but for 8 years. He wants to cash in after the tv deal and that's not worth trading roster players after we've done so well to build from within.

Also, as stated numerous times he wants to play in toronto - the only real fit, which i still dont want would be hall with 8 x 11 extension in toronto and marner extending in nj...but given marner isnt doing that, I'd rather risk hall walks.

Just a mistake of yours. I'm a Pens fan. As for 10.5 or 11M, those numbers would put Leafs in a cap hell situation anyway. When you have just 4 players (Tavares, Matthews, Marner and Nylander) being responsible for almost 50% of your salary cap, you're in a DEEP TROUBLE. That'd be a stupid decision and would compromise Toronto's future. Chicago was in a similar situation lately and I'm pretty sure that they're regret it. The reality in cap leagues is that you cannot keep all your top players. You Toronto's fans will have to face it and move on from Marner. Or pay the price to keep him...