I just can't take anyone seriously who puts Texier as a 4C
I'm sorry, this person is clueless.

Lets be honest, the only one out of that group that isn't replaceable is Panarin. Dzingel did little for CBJ 21 games 4 goals. You act like that was some great contribution. 9 playoff games 1 goal. He was a total disappointment and it cost him dollars on his next contract. He's by far, an easy replacement.
Bob....perennial playoff choker. I look forward to seeing elvis in net. In my opinion it's an upgrade on their playoff chances. With bob it was just a matter of when they would lose, not if.
Duchene has been a cancer everywhere he's gone. He's a decent player but he's over rated. Truth be told he had a strong playoffs with CBJ but the regular season play was pathetic. 23 games, 4 goals. If you think that was losing some great talent you are high as a kite. His and Dzingel's poor play for CBJ almost cost them a playoff spot. On top of it, his being on the team would get in the way of both Tex and Foudy. So I have no problem letting a 28 year old player who wants 7 years at a massive cap hit walk. The effect on the team will not be as great as you want to make it out to be.
Panarin does hurt. There is no doubt about that. OS marner might make up for that. Especially if the cost is only 2 1sts. I could see this happen. I don't personally think it's the answer. I would really like to see CBJ get a true 40 goal scorer not another, 20 some goals and a bunch of assists. They need a real legit weapon on the ice who is a pure danger with the puck. They lack that. It's the one piece that is preventing them from winning a cup. If they find that piece watch out. I don't think Marner is that piece.

Well, her point was that Sheary relies on Crosby and Marner gets carried by Tavares. When they aren’t playing with these elite centres, they are a complete waste of space on the ice. But honestly, if she doesn’t know anything about hockey, she wouldn’t know who’s Conor Sheary.

I agree, the Penguins players are committed into taking less money to help the team win. A lot of including myself were afraid Jake was going to get traded or offer sheeted because we felt he was going to demand 8-9 million at least because he already won the cup and had proved himself with several elite playoff performances. Even if he walked away to another team so he could make more money no one could blame him. Seeing Panarin get 12 million Guentzel must be kicking himself for only taking 6.5!

I mean, Atkinson did score 41 this past year and 35 2 years ago.

Lets be honest, the only one out of that group that isn't replaceable is Panarin. Dzingel did little for CBJ 21 games 4 goals. You act like that was some great contribution. 9 playoff games 1 goal. He was a total disappointment and it cost him dollars on his next contract. He's by far, an easy replacement.
Bob....perennial playoff choker. I look forward to seeing elvis in net. In my opinion it's an upgrade on their playoff chances. With bob it was just a matter of when they would lose, not if.
Duchene has been a cancer everywhere he's gone. He's a decent player but he's over rated. Truth be told he had a strong playoffs with CBJ but the regular season play was pathetic. 23 games, 4 goals. If you think that was losing some great talent you are high as a kite. His and Dzingel's poor play for CBJ almost cost them a playoff spot. On top of it, his being on the team would get in the way of both Tex and Foudy. So I have no problem letting a 28 year old player who wants 7 years at a massive cap hit walk. The effect on the team will not be as great as you want to make it out to be.
Panarin does hurt. There is no doubt about that. OS marner might make up for that. Especially if the cost is only 2 1sts. I could see this happen. I don't personally think it's the answer. I would really like to see CBJ get a true 40 goal scorer not another, 20 some goals and a bunch of assists. They need a real legit weapon on the ice who is a pure danger with the puck. They lack that. It's the one piece that is preventing them from winning a cup. If they find that piece watch out. I don't think Marner is that piece.

unproven elvis is an improvement to bob? seriously, do you hear yourself? that's a hot take if i've ever heard one.

Pretty sure elvis choked in Swiss league playoffs worse than Bob ever has, but playoffs are small sample sizes so who cares. Bob was great for you guys this year, and has been a great goalie for a long time.

Until korpisalo and elvis prove anything, there's absolutely no reason to expect your goal tending to be any good this year.

Bob was a playoff melt down goalie. You can flip it anyway you want. But the team was never going to win anything with him in net. Him walking was one of the best things to happen to CBJ. Maybe Elvis flops, it could be. It wouldn't matter, in the long run they are still better off than to take that 8 year massive contract on bob that he would have required. So please stop acting like letting him walk wasn't the right decision, it was. CBJ has 2 young goalies that could come in and be starters. You will be surprised how good Elvis plays next year.

im not saying it wasnt the right decision. i never said that.

I said your team is unquestionably worse next year, especially in goal. There's no way to spin that. Bob > korpisalo and elvis RIGHT NOW. That should not be a debate, and if it is you're delusional.

We won't know if bob is better than Elvis until elvis plays. I don't know you can assume that.
Elvis has a prety good tract record playing good talent. It's a much greater bet that Elvis won't melt in the playoffs every year like bob does.

This isnt hard. Korpisalo isnt good, Elvis is really unproven, and most goalies have really good track records before the NHL, and most dont do well in the nhl. Flat out the odds are he wont be as good. like 99% odds are he wont be nearly as good. You're betting on elvis or korpisalo being an upgrade on your playoff chances. That's a terrible take.

And like i said before, playoffs are small sample sizes and lead to weird fixations on players as playoff performers or chokers, but if you want to fixate on playoff performances like you have for bob, you should probably do the same for Elvis to be fair. Elvis choked pretty hard in Swiss-A than Bob ever has (3.96 GAA and an 0.875 SV%) , Doesnt scream playoff performer to me, cant even muster it in Swiss-A league, but hey you're the one focusing on playoff performances.

but you know what maybe youre right Evlis won't melt in the playoffs every year like bob does, because with that goaltending odds are you wont even make the playoffs.

Believe me, I'm not betting on Korpisalo.
You just want to troll CBJ and tell us all the doom and gloom and how it's the end of the world bob is gone. Hell you're probably a Tampa fan.
Elvis will be fine. They also have Tarasov and Vehvilainen in the organization as well. This is not a team without potential in net.

No I'm just saying youre flat out bat **** crazy delusional if you don't think your goaltending isn't worse off next year. Long run, maybe you're better, but next year, definitely worse. Lose the Homer glasses.

Also pretty clear I'm a leafs fan (tml) , but that shouldn't have anything to do with it, just like being a Tampa fan wouldn't. Neither has any bearing on what you are saying so maybe don't go there, it's a terrible argument, do better


Also potential does not mean better, which the jackets goaltending clearly isn't

The second they got rid of the choker the improved. The alternative was keeping the choker and getting the same results.

so basing it purely off bob apparently choking in playoffs. which really isnt true and as i have said multiple times is influenced a ton by small sample sizes.

but we will run with your logic once again, basing it on playoff performances, Elvis is the second coming of jesus in the playoffs though right? that sub .900 sv% in swiss league playoffs screams playoff hero, and will improve your chances? That's what youre trying to tell me.

Please walk me through your logic on how you have come to the conclusion that bob is a playoff choker, and korpisalo or elvis are any better in the playoffs, and use some stats in your response, just so you have to walk yourself through how dumb that notion is.