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Would Boston do this trade

Created by: TheDime99
Initial Creation Date: Jul 15, 2019
Published: Jul 16 at 1:31 pm
Team: 2019-20 New York Rangers
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Trouba, Jacob7$7,750,000
Deangelo, Anthony2$3,750,000
Lemieux, Brendan2$1,500,000
Perlini, Brendan2$1,500,000
Trades
NYR
  1. DeBrusk, Jake
  2. Backes, David
BOS
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel [RFA Rights]
  2. Andersson, Lias
  3. Reunanen, Tarmo
  4. 2021 2nd round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. 2020 3rd round pick (VAN)
VAN
  1. Namestnikov, Vladislav
NYR
  1. Perlini, Brendan [RFA Rights]
  2. 2021 4th round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Strome, Ryan
NYR
  1. 2020 2nd round pick (ANA)
ANA
  1. Shattenkirk, Kevin
Buyouts
  • Dan Girardi: $3,611,111
  • Ryan Spooner: $300,000
  • Brad Richards: $0
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Vladislav Namestnikov: $750,000 (19%)
Buried
  • Brendan Smith: $3,275,000 ($4,350,000)
  • Matt Beleskey: $825,000 ($1,900,000)
  • David Backes: $4,925,000 ($6,000,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
NYR
NYR
ANA
DAL
VAN
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NSH
VAN
2021
NYR
NYR
BUF
NYR
CHI
NYR
NYR
NYR
2022
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
NYR
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$80,500,633$0$5,282,500$999,367
Left WingCenterRight Wing
NYR
Panarin, Artemi
$11,642,857
LW
NMC
UFA - 7
NYR
Zibanejad, Mika
$5,350,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
BOS
DeBrusk, Jake
$863,333
LW
RFA - 1
NYR
Kreider, Chris
$4,625,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 1
NYR
Chytil, Filip
$894,166
LW, C
RFA - 2
NYR
Kakko, Kaapo
$925,000
RW
RFA - 3
Perlini, Brendan
$1,500,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
NYR
Howden, Brett
$863,333
C
RFA - 2
NYR
Kravtsov, Vitali
$925,000
RW
RFA - 3
NYR
Lemieux, Brendan
$1,500,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
NYR
McKegg, Greg
$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
NYR
Fast, Jesper
$1,850,000
RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
NYR
Skjei, Brady
$5,250,000
LD
UFA - 5
NYR
Trouba, Jacob
$7,750,000
RD
UFA - 7
NYR
Lundqvist, Henrik
$8,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2
NYR
Hájek, Libor
$833,333
LD
RFA - 2
NYR
Deangelo, Anthony
$3,750,000
RD
RFA - 1
NYR
Georgiev, Alexandar
$792,500
G
RFA - 1
NYR
Rykov, Yegor
$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
NYR
Fox, Adam
$925,000
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NYR
Staal, Marc
$5,700,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 2
NYR
Nieves, Cristoval
$700,000
C, LW
RFA - 1

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Jul 16 at 1:32
#1
KOG
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I feel like Kreider would have to be a part of it, not Buch
Jul 16 at 1:33
#2
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Can't see Boston trading Jake DeBrusk anytime soon. He's great for them and the package you offered isn't significant enough for the bruins to think about it. DeBrusk plays quote on quote "Boston hockey" Toughness and skill.
Jul 16 at 1:39
#3
Next Gen
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its more like would boston run away with this one sided trade?
Jul 16 at 1:39
#4
Bcarlo25
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very easy no from Boston. no counter offer. No, "we'll think about it." Just a, "thank you for your offer, but we're not interested."
Jul 16 at 1:40
#5
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: Bloodykisame
its more like would boston run away with this one sided trade?


bahahhahahahhahhahahhahha. oh that's adorable.
Jul 16 at 1:40
#6
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
very easy no from Boston. no counter offer. No, "we'll think about it." Just a, "thank you for your offer, but we're not interested."


You forgot to add that the players offered arent 10% what debrusk is
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Jul 16 at 1:41
#7
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
bahahhahahahhahhahahhahha. oh that's adorable.


I mean you dump your worst contract, get replacement offensive production for debrusk, get a 2017 1st rounder and more.

Did I miss debrusk being cam neely?
Jul 16 at 1:46
#8
Next Gen
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
bahahhahahahhahhahahhahha. oh that's adorable.


is it? debruks is a top 6 projected forward as buch already is. Buch has a higher offensive cieling and not to mention lias being a top end prospect and reunanen is a B tier prospect with 2nd's being worth much more than they used to. Not to mention backes is a cap dump for 3 years. This deal has boston favoured written all over it. I would do buch for debrusk straight up.
Jul 16 at 1:49
#9
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I mean you dump your worst contract, get replacement offensive production for debrusk, get a 2017 1st rounder and more.

Did I miss debrusk being cam neely?


27 goals, in 66 games for a guy still on his entry deal....prettay, prettay, prettaaayy valuable. Given that their tight against the cap, it becomes even more valuable.
There was no first rounder involved in this trade. Don't see where you're pulling that from.
Buchnevich is an RFA and will need a raise. Lias Andersson is kind of a nice piece, but this is a team that was one win away from a cup, they're not loading up on prospects, they want to win now.

They don't need to trade Backes this year, so I just zero motivation for them to do this trade.
Jul 16 at 1:52
#10
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
27 goals, in 66 games for a guy still on his entry deal....prettay, prettay, prettaaayy valuable. Given that their tight against the cap, it becomes even more valuable.
There was no first rounder involved in this trade. Don't see where you're pulling that from.
Buchnevich is an RFA and will need a raise. Lias Andersson is kind of a nice piece, but this is a team that was one win away from a cup, they're not loading up on prospects, they want to win now.

They don't need to trade Backes this year, so I just zero motivation for them to do this trade.


You are overrating Debrusk here. Good player, but not the stud you think he is and he proved that in the playoffs.
Jul 16 at 1:56
#11
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: Bloodykisame
is it? debruks is a top 6 projected forward as buch already is. Buch has a higher offensive cieling and not to mention lias being a top end prospect and reunanen is a B tier prospect with 2nd's being worth much more than they used to. Not to mention backes is a cap dump for 3 years. This deal has boston favoured written all over it. I would do buch for debrusk straight up.


dude, all you have to do is go to hockeydb to realize that literally none of what you said is true.

1. Debrusk is already a more established goal scorer than Buch. 27 in 66 last season. C'mon man.
2. Backes has 2 years left, not 3.

If there was more, I skipped it.
Jul 16 at 2:02
#12
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
27 goals, in 66 games for a guy still on his entry deal....prettay, prettay, prettaaayy valuable. Given that their tight against the cap, it becomes even more valuable.
There was no first rounder involved in this trade. Don't see where you're pulling that from.
Buchnevich is an RFA and will need a raise. Lias Andersson is kind of a nice piece, but this is a team that was one win away from a cup, they're not loading up on prospects, they want to win now.

They don't need to trade Backes this year, so I just zero motivation for them to do this trade.


Lias Anderseon was NYR 1st rounder in 2017, no?

Also, you don't get to complain about being so close to the cap and skip over moving backes
Jul 16 at 2:03
#13
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
dude, all you have to do is go to hockeydb to realize that literally none of what you said is true.

1. Debrusk is already a more established goal scorer than Buch. 27 in 66 last season. C'mon man.
2. Backes has 2 years left, not 3.

If there was more, I skipped it.


68 games.

You know, since you are such a stickler for getting things right
Jul 16 at 2:10
#14
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: Bbousa
You are overrating Debrusk here. Good player, but not the stud you think he is and he proved that in the playoffs.


he played the entire playoffs with a concussion that he suffered in the Toronto series.

This trade is trash. You know it. Debrusk was 40th in goals per game last season in the league. How many of those 39 ahead of him do you think are on their entry level next season? The answer is 1. There is 1 more proven goal scorer in the entire league that will be on their entry level deal next year. That's alex debrincat. You can sit here and tell me how this is good value until you're blue in the face, but you're ignoring the position the bruins are in. Remember four things.
1. They struggled with secondary scoring.
2. They won 15 playoff games last year and are in win now mode.
3. They are up against the cap.
4. Debrusk is the 2nd most proven NHL goal scorer still on his entry level deal.

The Bruins aren't entertaining discussions for Jake Debrusk.
Jul 16 at 2:12
#15
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Lias Anderseon was NYR 1st rounder in 2017, no?

Also, you don't get to complain about being so close to the cap and skip over moving backes


moving backes would be great, but they don't have to do it this year. They can buy him out or move him to a team that can buy him out pretty easily in the off season.

my bad about the andersson first round pick thing. When I see someone mention a first round pick, I tend to think they mean a first round pick. Once a player with a pulse and a name gets drafted, they aren't a draft pick anymore, they're a player. The bruins have a few former first round picks that they would sell for peanuts right now.
Jul 16 at 2:14
#16
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
he played the entire playoffs with a concussion that he suffered in the Toronto series.

This trade is trash. You know it. Debrusk was 40th in goals per game last season in the league. How many of those 39 ahead of him do you think are on their entry level next season? The answer is 1. There is 1 more proven goal scorer in the entire league that will be on their entry level deal next year. That's alex debrincat. You can sit here and tell me how this is good value until you're blue in the face, but you're ignoring the position the bruins are in. Remember four things.
1. They struggled with secondary scoring.
2. They won 15 playoff games last year and are in win now mode.
3. They are up against the cap.
4. Debrusk is the 2nd most proven NHL goal scorer still on his entry level deal.

The Bruins aren't entertaining discussions for Jake Debrusk.


You say that but how do u plan on signing Carlo and McAvoy with 8m in cap space
Jul 16 at 2:15
#17
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: TheDime99
You say that but how do u plan on signing Carlo and McAvoy with 8m in cap space


bridge deals. 2 years a pop. done. couple million left over.
Jul 16 at 2:23
#18
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
bridge deals. 2 years a pop. done. couple million left over.


Good luck
Jul 16 at 2:24
#19
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
Good luck


you dont think that works? if so, why?
Jul 16 at 2:24
#20
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
he played the entire playoffs with a concussion that he suffered in the Toronto series.

This trade is trash. You know it. Debrusk was 40th in goals per game last season in the league. How many of those 39 ahead of him do you think are on their entry level next season? The answer is 1. There is 1 more proven goal scorer in the entire league that will be on their entry level deal next year. That's alex debrincat. You can sit here and tell me how this is good value until you're blue in the face, but you're ignoring the position the bruins are in. Remember four things.
1. They struggled with secondary scoring.
2. They won 15 playoff games last year and are in win now mode.
3. They are up against the cap.
4. Debrusk is the 2nd most proven NHL goal scorer still on his entry level deal.

The Bruins aren't entertaining discussions for Jake Debrusk.


I appreciate that you like debrusk, but let's settle down. Hes not Brendan Shanahan or cam neely in his prime
Jul 16 at 2:25
#21
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
you dont think that works? if so, why?


If it's so easy why isnt it done?
Jul 16 at 2:27
#22
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
I appreciate that you like debrusk, but let's settle down. Hes not Brendan Shanahan or cam neely in his prime


is there a single thing in my post that is inaccurate? if so, what?
Jul 16 at 2:31
#23
Bcarlo25
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
If it's so easy why isnt it done?


my opinion on that is that they want to lock up Carlo long term, and are hoping they can move some cap around to do so. There's no rush on McAvoy, so he's likely the last to get signed.
Jul 16 at 2:33
#24
ChytilMania
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Bruins say no, and so do we. We have Buchnievich and there’s no need to get rid of him for Debrusk. Our forward group is already good; we need to build around what we have and get rid of those who restrain us cap wise or are no longer needed.
Jul 16 at 2:54
#25
NGP22
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Quoting: Bloodykisame
its more like would boston run away with this one sided trade?


lolwut
 
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