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Jul. 19, 2019 at 6:19 p.m.
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Detroit in the salary cap era. Done
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Jul. 19, 2019 at 7:15 p.m.
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Quoting: SmugTkachuk
Detroit in the salary cap era. Done


I feel the need to bring balance to the force in this retort even though I don't agree at all with the AGM title.


Detroit since salary cap implemented:

13 seasons - 1 Stanley cup, 10 playoff appearances , passed the 1st round of the playoffs 6 times.


Calgary since salary cap implemented:

13 seasons - 0 Stanley cups, 7 playoff appearances, one single time past 1st round.



I know Detroit gets a lot of flack for putting together a colossal nightmare cap wise these past couple years but since the cap was implemented they've been a powerhouse and one of the best teams in the league for a long long time. I think peoples recency bias is showing when it comes to Detroit.

PS. I'm not a Wings fan in the slightest.
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Jul. 20, 2019 at 9:53 a.m.
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Quoting: F50marco
I feel the need to bring balance to the force in this retort even though I don't agree at all with the AGM title.


Detroit since salary cap implemented:

13 seasons - 1 Stanley cup, 10 playoff appearances , passed the 1st round of the playoffs 6 times.


Calgary since salary cap implemented:

13 seasons - 0 Stanley cups, 7 playoff appearances, one single time past 1st round.



I know Detroit gets a lot of flack for putting together a colossal nightmare cap wise these past couple years but since the cap was implemented they've been a powerhouse and one of the best teams in the league for a long long time. I think peoples recency bias is showing when it comes to Detroit.

PS. I'm not a Wings fan in the slightest.


Detroit was carried by Yzerman, Fedorov, and Lidstrom. Then as they stepped out, It was Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Lidstrom. All players were drafted by Jimmy Devellano. He completely built that team from the ground up and Holland rode the wave of franchise players until they couldnt play any longer.

watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JIkZAxDVPc
Jul. 20, 2019 at 3:25 p.m.
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Detroit was carried by Yzerman, Fedorov, and Lidstrom. Then as they stepped out, It was Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Lidstrom. All players were drafted by Jimmy Devellano. He completely built that team from the ground up and Holland rode the wave of franchise players until they couldnt play any longer.

watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JIkZAxDVPc


And?.............. Was Holland supposed to trade all those players away and start anew as soon as he got there? Of course not. Whats your point? During the years he was there, things worked out pretty smoothly for a long long time. The last 3 years of missing the playoffs are a culmination of those years of success. Which is something every team will go through in a salary cap era. Its the price of success.

Not saying Holland is a genius or anything. Saying blaming him solely for the collapse of the Wings dynasty after nearly 20 years of continuous success isn't a fair assessment. Holland deserves some credit for that success and some blame for its downfall.

Holland can be credited with not seeing the writing on the wall when he should have but can you blame him? Take a look at his career as GM of the Wings during that time........ From 97-2017, 20 years this teams for the most part was the cream of the crop.

I think its important to remind yourself that this collapse video, is a collapse of a DYNASTY. How many teams can even say they were a dynasty in the first place? Maybe Pittsburgh? As with any dynasty. they all will fall eventually. That is one of the main functions of having a salary cap. It will happen to every team that reaches the status Detroit got to the past 20 years.
 
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