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HABS 1019

Created by: HABSPSC
Initial Creation Date: Jul 22, 2019
Published: Jul 22, 2019 at 9:52
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
Gusev, Nikita3$4,250,000
Trades
MTL
  1. Gusev, Nikita [RFA Rights]
VGK
  1. Hudon, Charles
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (CHI)
MTL
  1. 2020 5th round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Lindgren, Charlie
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Marco Scandella: $2,000,000 (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: $350,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Mike Reilly: $425,000 ($1,500,000)
  • Dale Weise: $1,275,000 ($2,350,000)
  • Matthew Peca: $225,000 ($1,300,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ANA
SJS
WPG
MTL
FLA
EDM
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$76,193,809$0$3,525,000$5,306,191

Roster

Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Tatar, Tomas
$4,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 4
Gusev, Nikita
$4,250,000
LW
UFA - 2
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
MTL
Poehling, Ryan
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
MTL
Cousins, Nick
$1,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 3
MTL
Petry, Jeff
$5,500,000
RD
NMC NTC
UFA - 2
MTL
Kinkaid, Keith
$1,750,000
G
UFA - 1
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Juulsen, Noah
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
MTL
Folin, Christian
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Tatar, T.
Domi, M.
Gallagher, B.
Weber, S.
Drouin, J.
Power Play 2
Lehkonen, A.
Kotkaniemi, J.
Gusev, N.
Mete, V.
Petry, J.
Penalty Kill 1
Lehkonen, A.
Danault, P.
Kulak, B.
Petry, J.
Penalty Kill 2
Poehling, R.
Kotkaniemi, J.
Chiarot, B.
Juulsen, N.

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Jul 22, 2019 at 10:29
#1
Billy739
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 4,268
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atleast you realize Claude Julien wouldnt play a russian in his top 6
no real need for him at this point with Suzuki here and kicking the door down .
Like his friend and fellow former London Knight Mitch Marner
Suzuki will like Marner jump straight to the NHL as a Winger after his own 40+ point memorial cup run .
we're all forgetting how close he was to starting last year , had Kotkanemi went back to Liiga then Suzuki woulda started for sure.(Suzuki and Brook were the last cuts of last years camp)

Gusev only evey thrives on all star teams , we're not a fit .
he had 2/3 last KHL UFA's to bust in the NHL as line mate's in Shipachyov and Kovalchuk
he only every thrives when there are 2-3 big name playes for him to work with
its why he signed less then 90 days before he was to become a UFA capable of playing anywhere in the NHL.
Gusev like Shipachyov will be forgotten about in 2-3 years time
Jul 22, 2019 at 10:45
#2
TuchMysak
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,071
Likes: 524
Quoting: Billy739
Gusev only evey thrives on all star teams , we're not a fit .


With the prospect pool that we have I'd still give a shot at it doe. Giving -one of- our second rounder this or next year and an expandable forward for a guy that may or may not explode I think it's worth the risk. Try him on a two year deal and see what he gives you. Radulov thrived in Montreal so ...

He being a sniper you can imagine how much he could work his magic with a great passer that KK is becoming!
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Jul 23, 2019 at 7:38
#3
Hulk-a-mania
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 327
Likes: 63
Quoting: ColonelX
With the prospect pool that we have I'd still give a shot at it doe. Giving -one of- our second rounder this or next year and an expandable forward for a guy that may or may not explode I think it's worth the risk. Try him on a two year deal and see what he gives you. Radulov thrived in Montreal so ...

He being a sniper you can imagine how much he could work his magic with a great passer that KK is becoming!


As much as I like your rational, Hudon and a 2nd doesn't get it done. Vegas wants teams to pay more for potential upside, Gusev will probably play in Europe this season unless he's traded to EDM for Puls.
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Jul 23, 2019 at 8:28
#4
Billy739
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 4,268
Likes: 1,053
Quoting: ColonelX
With the prospect pool that we have I'd still give a shot at it doe. Giving -one of- our second rounder this or next year and an expandable forward for a guy that may or may not explode I think it's worth the risk. Try him on a two year deal and see what he gives you. Radulov thrived in Montreal so ...

He being a sniper you can imagine how much he could work his magic with a great passer that KK is becoming!

i get some people dont know Gusev s a poor mans Radulov who only became a star in the KHL in Radulov absence and not a second before. he's not a secret weapon its why VGK are so willing to move his rights . its also why Gusev was so desperate that 90 days before going UFA he signs with VGK so they own his rights for the next 4-5 years.

the only team who would pay for a gamble like Gusev is NYR because they have the biggest upside with Panarin -Gusev chemistry internationally .
i say easily our 2nd has more value then Gusev by a country mile , this is no Panarin type player coming over after out playing Radulov and Kovalchuck in their prime's this is another Nischuskin people will pretend is a superstar


it is the way we've drafted since hiring Eric Crawford who stocked VAN depth pool with the Boeser and friends
MTL in the past 3 years has drafted Struble , Ylonen ,Romanov , Olofsson , ikonen and Brook in the 2nd round alone aka 90% of our current depth with 6/6 ahead of projected development. its why MB went from being known as the guy who included a 2nd in every trade MTL offered to someone who acquires them for the draft.

from 2014-2016 we were stupid and traded away our 2nd picks for players like Shaw and Petry's player rights


i watch the KHL and Gusev isnt an NHL player , he's the guy who filled the void Radulov left nothing more . When Radulov was in the KHL Gusev was a joke no one every really got and now the jokes about to be on the whole NHL . players with talent like Radulov wait until they are UFA to come over where as Gusev guarantee's VGK retain his rights if he signed 90 days before going UFA to a contract way less then an untested NCAA LD got from the same team . (of which only 1/2 was used and it wasnt the russian )

Gusev's all hype
even Gusev knew not to invest in Gusev
its why he's not UFA right now
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Jul 23, 2019 at 10:21
#5
TuchMysak
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,071
Likes: 524
Quoting: Billy739
from 2014-2016 we were stupid and traded away our 2nd picks for players like Shaw and Petry's player rights


I'd say the second rounder on Petry was a damn great investment whoever that turned out to be (Jonas Siegenthaler). Wasn't the deepest draft I'd say.

On the other hand I get your POV and neither I'd do that trade BUT I wouldn't be pissed off neither, it'd go down as a "Meh" trade for me.
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Jul 23, 2019 at 10:38
#6
Billy739
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 4,268
Likes: 1,053
Quoting: ColonelX
I'd say the second rounder on Petry was a damn great investment whoever that turned out to be (Jonas Siegenthaler). Wasn't the deepest draft I'd say.

On the other hand I get your POV and neither I'd do that trade BUT I wouldn't be pissed off neither, it'd go down as a "Meh" trade for me.


Agreed on Petry but the thing was we just paid for his rights just before free agency where kevin hayes for example only got WPG a 5th rounder .
if it was like months before then sure but the cost was always a clear overpayment for me .
that being said i shouldnt complain , overpayment or not we're now in a position to yield a significant return as juulsen's here , Brook was ready last year and held down , Fleury's coming off a great rookie season in the AHL so at this point Keeping Petry until he's UFA in 2022 isnt possible . he'll likely be moved next summer so we can clear cap for Domi,Mete,and Juulsens deals (also preparing for Danault,Gallagher,Tatar ,Poehling and Kotkanemi's deals the summer after that)
Jul 23, 2019 at 11:01
#7
TuchMysak
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,071
Likes: 524
Quoting: Billy739
Agreed on Petry but the thing was we just paid for his rights just before free agency where kevin hayes for example only got WPG a 5th rounder .
if it was like months before then sure but the cost was always a clear overpayment for me .
that being said i shouldnt complain , overpayment or not we're now in a position to yield a significant return as juulsen's here , Brook was ready last year and held down , Fleury's coming off a great rookie season in the AHL so at this point Keeping Petry until he's UFA in 2022 isnt possible . he'll likely be moved next summer so we can clear cap for Domi,Mete,and Juulsens deals (also preparing for Danault,Gallagher,Tatar ,Poehling and Kotkanemi's deals the summer after that)


Petry was moved at trade deadline as a potential rental player that year, a second and a fourth at trade deadline for a top4 defenseman is cheap. Everyone knew he wouldn't resign in EDM so MacTavish had to deal him at the deadline to get anything back for him, we payed a lot less then the Oilers would've accepted if they would've had more leverage in the situation.

I'm with you, he'll be traded before the trade deadline I'm pretty sure. If you want to make space in your Top6 for Suzuki and Poehling/KK at one point I think it'll be by moving Tatar. Drouin has right now no trade value and Gallagher/Domi/Danault aren't going anywhere for now (I'M WATCHING YOU CAROLINA AND YOUR OFFERSHEETS!)
Jul 23, 2019 at 12:51
#8
Thread Starter
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 32
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Quoting: ColonelX
Drouin has right now no trade value and Gallagher/Domi/Danault aren't going anywhere for now (I'M WATCHING YOU CAROLINA AND YOUR OFFERSHEETS!)


I think you could move Drouin for a first rd pick and a prospect today. I think most GMs realize that he isn't in the ideal situation, i.e. playing alongside a sniper.
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