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Created by: Canucks33

Team: 2019-20 Vancouver Canucks

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 15, 2019

Published: Nov. 15, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Saw the idea from Old_Snowman and ran him/her it. Giving them credit.

I added an unconditional pick because Eriksson has the higher cap hit by $750,000. That way there's no retained salary.

Trades

VAN

Nielsen, Frans

DET

Eriksson, Loui
2021 4th round pick (VAN)

Buyouts

Ryan Spooner: $1,033,333

Recapture Fees

Roberto Luongo: $3,035,212

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$81,500,000	$78,132,712	$0	$4,762,500	$3,367,288

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Miller, J.T. $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 4	Pettersson, Elias $925,000$925,000 ($2,850,000$3M) C, LW UFA - 2	Boeser, Brock $5,875,000$5,875,000 RW UFA - 3
Baertschi, Sven $3,366,666$3,366,666 LW UFA - 2	Gaudette, Adam $916,667$916,667 ($850,000$850K) C, RW UFA - 1	Virtanen, Jake $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Pearson, Tanner $3,750,000$3,750,000 LW UFA - 2	Horvat, Bo $4,125,000$4,125,000 C UFA - 4	Leivo, Josh $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
	Nielsen, Frans $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3	MacEwen, Zack $847,500$847,500 ($212,500$212K) RW, C UFA - 1
Schaller, Tim $1,900,000$1,900,000 LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Edler, Alexander $6,000,000$6,000,000 LD NMC UFA - 2	Myers, Tyler $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Markström, Jacob $3,666,667$3,666,667 G UFA - 1
Benn, Jordie $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Tanev, Christopher $4,450,000$4,450,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Demko, Thatcher $1,050,000$1,050,000 G UFA - 2
Hughes, Quinn $916,667$916,667 ($850,000$850K) LD UFA - 2	Stecher, Troy $2,325,000$2,325,000 RD UFA - 1
	Fantenberg, Oscar $850,000$850,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Ferland, Micheal $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 4	Roussel, Antoine $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW M-NTC UFA - 3
	Sutter, Brandon $4,375,000$4,375,000 RW, C M-NTC UFA - 2
	Motte, Tyler $975,000$975,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
	Beagle, Jay $3,000,000$3,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3

Nov. 15, 2019 at 5:39 p.m.

bdougher

My Hart Will Go On

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I don't see Detroit doing this. Neilsen is the better player and has 1 less year on his contract. It would need quite a bit more than a 4th to get this done.

Nov. 15, 2019 at 5:46 p.m.

Canucks33

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Quoting: bdougher

I don't see Detroit doing this. Neilsen is the better player and has 1 less year on his contract. It would need quite a bit more than a 4th to get this done.

Eriksson and Nielsen have the same term left on their deals. Eriksson's cap hit is $750,000 higher than Nielsen's, which is why I added the unconditional pick.

I would agree that Nielsen > Eriksson, but if both GM's are just ready to cut ties and get a fresh start then maybe it could happen. Neal was always better than Lucic too.

Nov. 15, 2019 at 6:00 p.m.

WhereArtTLuongo

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Quoting: Canucks33

Quoting: bdougher

I don't see Detroit doing this. Neilsen is the better player and has 1 less year on his contract. It would need quite a bit more than a 4th to get this done.

Agreed with Canucks33. Plus if you include the bonuses and everything and since Eriksson's contract was front loaded but Nielsen's was not, Eriksson is only owed $13 million over the next 3 years in real time money while Nielsen is owed slightly more at $13.5 million. Have a look for yourself in the total salary section.
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/loui-eriksson
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/frans-nielsen

Nov. 15, 2019 at 6:51 p.m.

aedoran

Joined: Dec. 2017

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Quoting: bdougher

I don't see Detroit doing this. Neilsen is the better player and has 1 less year on his contract. It would need quite a bit more than a 4th to get this done.

As a Detroit fan I agree that isn't worth a 4th. They do have the same term.

Quoting: Canucks33

Eriksson and Nielsen have the same term left on their deals. Eriksson's cap hit is $750,000 higher than Nielsen's, which is why I added the unconditional pick.
I would agree that Nielsen > Eriksson, but if both GM's are just ready to cut ties and get a fresh start then maybe it could happen. Neal was always better than Lucic too.

But that's not the reason Detroit says no. Yzerman had multiple chances to take on a cap dump where the contract is in it's final year and he didn't. With the players Detroit has to resign and having cap space for a UFA would be nice. Yzerman will have a good idea he has and what he needs by the end of the season. The way things are going every player on the Griffens will have played a couple of games in Detroit.

Do teams actually put conditions on 4th round picks? REAL QUESTION I'm not being a smart ass.

Nov. 15, 2019 at 6:56 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

Joined: Jan. 2019

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If I'm Yzerman I'd have zero interest in this, when guys are past 33 years old they're also past the point of just needing a fresh start and I'd also rather just keep Nielsen cause he expires sooner and can play center, a 4th round pick wouldn't be nearly enough for me to consider this trade.

Nov. 16, 2019 at 2:48 p.m.

Canucks33

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Quoting: aedoran

As a Detroit fan I agree that isn't worth a 4th. They do have the same term.

But that's not the reason Detroit says no. Yzerman had multiple chances to take on a cap dump where the contract is in it's final year and he didn't. With the players Detroit has to resign and having cap space for a UFA would be nice. Yzerman will have a good idea he has and what he needs by the end of the season. The way things are going every player on the Griffens will have played a couple of games in Detroit.

Do teams actually put conditions on 4th round picks? REAL QUESTION I'm not being a smart ass.

This trade would barely impact their cap structure. An extra $750,000 shouldn't be the difference between re-signing their players and maybe 1-2 UFAs as well.

Also, teams put conditions on any type of pick really. Tampa got a conditional 7th for Domingue this year.

Nov. 16, 2019 at 2:50 p.m.

Canucks33

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Quoting: MisstheWhalers

The contracts expire at the same time.

If you feel that the Canucks would need to add more, then that's fair.

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