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Created by: Hellochris06

Team: 2020-21 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Nov. 27, 2019

Published: Nov. 30, 2019

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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20-21 Wings. Essentially this hinges on Yzerman having no confidence in the current core being able to contend due to lacking so many pieces so trades AA and utilizes cap space to take on bad contracts to acquire assets as there aren't any vets to really sell off. Looked for some decent prospect upgrades at each position. Thought about trading Mantha as well, but the team just looks horrific without him.

Goalie signing (Smith) could be any older stopgap UFA with a .905 Sv%. Could be Lehner or Markstrom too but would be a bigger contract. Don't see them hitting UFA though.

The Montreal trade could be a deadline deal as well. Might want a little more if it was.

Don't know if Ottawa would worry about moving on from Ryan at this point.

Obviously a complete hypothetical and don't expect this many trades to actually happen, just a sample of stuff that might be interesting. Didn't sign a few of the RFAs who are borderline at this point.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Bertuzzi, Tyler	4	$3,500,000
Perlini, Brendan	1	$1,250,000
Athanasiou, Andreas	1	$3,000,000
Fleury, Haydn	2	$2,500,000
Mantha, Anthony	6	$6,500,000
Fabbri, Robby	2	$2,100,000
Svechnikov, Evgeny	2	$1,250,000
Bowey, Madison	1	$1,000,000
Ehn, Christoffer	2	$1,000,000
Hirose, Taro	2	$1,025,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Smith, Mike		1	$3,000,000

CREATED		YEARS	CAP HIT
Lundell, Anton		3	$925,000

Trades

DET

Fleury, Haydn [RFA Rights]
2020 1st round pick (TOR)

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Lower of Carolina's two first round selections.

CAR

Athanasiou, Andreas

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2020 Trade Deadline Move

DET

Eriksson, Loui
Höglander, Nils [Reserve List]
2020 2nd round pick (VAN)

VAN

DET

2020 3rd round pick (EDM)
2020 5th round pick (EDM)

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Gagner comes back in this move for the remainder of the '19-'20 season

EDM

Helm, Darren ($1,900,000 retained)

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2020 Trade Deadline Move

While maligned for the contract, he's a good forechecker and can help skilled third lines with possession. Possibly the hardest working guy in Detroit.

DET

Alzner, Karl
Romanov, Alexander [Reserve List]
2020 2nd round pick (MTL)

MTL

DET

Ryan, Bobby
Søgaard, Mads [Reserve List]
2020 2nd round pick (DAL)
2022 3rd round pick (OTT)

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Middle of Ottawa's 2nd round selections in 2020.

OTT

DET

2020 6th round pick (WPG)

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This trade is literally to any playoff wanting some defense depth.

WPG

Bowey, Madison

Buyouts

Stephen Weiss: $1,666,667
Bobby Ryan: $3,583,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Darren Helm: $1,900,000 (49.35%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$81,500,000	$73,090,832	$0	$1,857,500	$8,409,168

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bertuzzi, Tyler $3,500,000$3,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan $6,100,000$6,100,000 C UFA - 3	Mantha, Anthony $6,500,000$6,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4
Fabbri, Robby $2,100,000$2,100,000 LW UFA - 2	Filppula, Valtteri $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	Zadina, Filip $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, LW RFA - 2
Svechnikov, Evgeny $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Glendening, Luke $1,800,000$1,800,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 1	Rasmussen, Michael $894,166$894,166 ($850,000$850K) LW, C UFA - 1
Abdelkader, Justin $4,250,000$4,250,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 3	Nielsen, Frans $5,250,000$5,250,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
		Perlini, Brendan $1,250,000$1,250,000 RW, LW UFA

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
DeKeyser, Danny $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Hronek, Filip $714,166$714,166 ($157,500$158K) RD RFA - 1	Bernier, Jonathan $3,000,000$3,000,000 G UFA - 1
Nemeth, Patrik $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD UFA - 1	Seider, Moritz $894,167$894,167 RD RFA - 4
Fleury, Haydn $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Cholowski, Dennis $894,166$894,166 LD RFA - 1	Smith, Mike $3,000,000$3,000,000 G UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Eriksson, Loui $6,000,000$6,000,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2		Zetterberg, Henrik $6,083,333$6,083,333 C UFA - 1
Alzner, Karl $4,625,000$4,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2
Hirose, Taro $1,025,000$1,025,000 LW UFA - 1

Nov. 30, 2019 at 1:07 p.m.

oilnate

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No from Edmonton

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Nov. 30, 2019 at 1:35 p.m.

DiehardRedWingsFan58

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Your signings are a joke, Mantha gets at least 8 x 7.5 and Bertuzzi and Athanasiou get at least 7 x 5.5 Bertuzzi maybe even more.

Nov. 30, 2019 at 2:04 p.m.

aedoran

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Montreal isn't giving up Romanov to get rid of Alzner. Ottawa is in the same situation they aren't going to pay us for taking cap they need to make the salary floor. Carolina isn't going to pay that much for AA. I don't think Bowey gets moved because of the expansion draft yes we can protect players but you also have so many players unprotected that meet certain requirements.

Nov. 30, 2019 at 2:50 p.m.

toddbertuzzi44

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Quoting: aedoran

I agree with your first 2 points, but I don’t see Yzerman keeping around a trash can like Bowey. For the expansion draft you only need 1 defenseman that meets a specific requirements. DK will meet those, but I think there is a chance they will protect him, so with Ericsson, Green, Daley coming off the books Stevie will have room to sign a serviceable Vet or 2 that meet those requirements or make a trade. I just don’t think Stevie is the kind of GM to keep some trash can around just for the sake of those requirements, I think he will find another way. That’s just my opinion, and what I hope happens because I hate watching Bowey be awful defensively night in and night out. I don’t care if he puts up some points, he’s bad

Nov. 30, 2019 at 3:12 p.m.

aedoran

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Quoting: toddbertuzzi44

Ok maybe he could sign a vet but why trade when you don't have to that would be giving up to get a player to give up. Most of the mock expansion drafts I've seen have either Bowey or Dekeyser going.

Nov. 30, 2019 at 3:19 p.m.

toddbertuzzi44

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Quoting: aedoran

Ok maybe he could sign a vet but why trade when you don't have to that would be giving up to get a player to give up. Most of the mock expansion drafts I've seen have either Bowey or Dekeyser going.

A trade would be last resort obviously, but maybe he could acquire someone cheap like he did with Fabri, Erne, Perlini. Just need someone serviceable and better defensively then Bowey, which I think will be fairly easy to find in UFA

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Nov. 30, 2019 at 4:29 p.m.

MisstheWhalers

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Refresh my memory was there any "cap dump" trades this summer that involved a team parting with a quality asset to move said "cap dump"? Cause I can't think of any at the moment.

I kinda think GM's have wised up to the point that unless you're completely desperate it's just not worth losing quality young players or 1st round picks for some cap space so I think it's a reach to think any of these trades would happen.

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Buyouts

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