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Strengthening - moves with NYR and NJ

Created by: justaBoss
Initial Creation Date: Dec 3, 2019
Published: Dec 3, 2019 at 10:44
Team: 2019-20 Dallas Stars
Trades
DAL
  1. Kreider, Chris ($2,312,500 retained)
  2. McKegg, Greg
  3. 2020 3rd round pick (DAL)
NYR
  1. Janmark, Mattias
  2. Mascherin, Adam
  3. 2020 1st round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Vatanen, Sami
NJD
  1. Sekera, Andrej
  2. Honka, Julius [Reserve List]
  3. Tufte, Riley
DAL
  1. 2020 7th round pick (DAL)
BUF
  1. Heatherington, Dillon
Buyouts
  • Valeri Nichushkin: $700,000
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
2021
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
2022
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
DAL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$78,374,165$932,500$5,100,000$3,125,835
Left WingCenterRight Wing
DAL
Gurianov, Denis
$894,166
LW
RFA - 1
DAL
Seguin, Tyler
$9,850,000
C, RW
NMC
UFA - 8
DAL
Radulov, Alexander
$6,250,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 3
DAL
Benn, Jamie
$9,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 6
DAL
Hintz, Roope
$811,667
C, LW
RFA - 1
DAL
Pavelski, Joe
$7,000,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 3
NYR
Kreider, Chris
$2,312,500
LW
NTC
UFA - 1
DAL
Dickinson, Jason
$1,500,000
C
RFA - 2
DAL
Perry, Corey
$1,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
DAL
Cogliano, Andrew
$3,250,000
LW
NTC
UFA - 2
DAL
Faksa, Radek
$2,200,000
C
RFA - 1
DAL
Comeau, Blake
$2,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
DAL
Heiskanen, Miro
$894,166
RD
RFA - 2
DAL
Klingberg, John
$4,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
DAL
Bishop, Ben
$4,916,666
G
NMC
UFA - 4
DAL
Lindell, Esa
$5,800,000
LD
UFA - 6
NJD
Vatanen, Sami
$2,437,500
LD/RD
UFA - 1
DAL
Khudobin, Anton
$2,500,000
G
UFA - 1
DAL
Oleksiak, Jamie
$2,137,500
LD
UFA - 2
DAL
Polák, Roman
$1,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
NYR
McKegg, Greg
$750,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
DAL
Johns, Stephen
$2,350,000
RD
UFA - 2
DAL
Hanzal, Martin
$4,750,000
C
NTC
UFA - 1
DAL
Dowling, Justin
$750,000
C
UFA - 2
DAL
Fedun, Taylor
$737,500
RD
UFA - 2

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Dec 4, 2019 at 12:19
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Seems like you've been doing some version of this time and time again, but you're just missing it. Simply swap Mascherin/Janmark for Robertson. Given the comparable AHL production between Robertson and Mascherin you logically wouldn't have a problem with this.

Also obviously Rangers aren't adding a 3rd, you know that.
Dec 4, 2019 at 10:12
#2
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KIVI IS THE GOAT
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Seems like you've been doing some version of this time and time again, but you're just missing it. Simply swap Mascherin/Janmark for Robertson. Given the comparable AHL production between Robertson and Mascherin you logically wouldn't have a problem with this.

Also obviously Rangers aren't adding a 3rd, you know that.


Robertson, Mascherin and a 1st for Kreider?

That might be the worst and craziest overpayment I've ever seen...
Dec 4, 2019 at 10:16
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Robertson, Mascherin and a 1st for Kreider?

That might be the worst and craziest overpayment I've ever seen...


No drop Masherin. Just Robertson + 1st.
Dec 4, 2019 at 12:19
#4
Thread Starter
KIVI IS THE GOAT
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Quoting: Sagecoll
No drop Masherin. Just Robertson + 1st.


Still overpayment
Dec 4, 2019 at 12:49
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Still overpayment


So Mascherin + Janmark <<<<< Robertson ?

Howbout a compromise. Cond 1st (on resigning or reaching Finals) + Robertson. I think you'd rationally agree that's a good deal.
Dec 4, 2019 at 1:21
#6
Thread Starter
KIVI IS THE GOAT
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Quoting: Sagecoll
So Mascherin + Janmark <<<<< Robertson ?

Howbout a compromise. Cond 1st (on resigning or reaching Finals) + Robertson. I think you'd rationally agree that's a good deal.


Nah. Robertson's a top winger prospect in this team, worth easily a first for us. He's not going anywhere.
Dec 10, 2019 at 7:24
#7
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Nah. Robertson's a top winger prospect in this team, worth easily a first for us. He's not going anywhere.


Drop it, he thinks this on other trades too... i just seen him in another topic that Hall will go for 1 million 1st round picks + prospects, becasue he is a "hart winner". Looks like he likes to overpay for everything. There are couple guys here who often doing that. If you started it once. You can't stop. I mean there is overpayments every year. But those are not the majority... Ususally it's a fair deal(every GM tries to do it), if overpayment there is a reason and not just every 2nd trade overpayment for no reason...
Kreider is like worth a 1st + small things like bad prospects...
or a 2nd + alright prospect + maybe some small asset like a 6th...

All in all, i can back up Burger here: Robertson + cond first = huge overpayment...
Cond first +2nd + mediocre prospect, if you want to include first... first picks = huge value... even if it's 20-25th picks.. Kredier = most likely rental = around first round pick full value, then you can divide that to smaller stuff... If some teams offer 1st+2nd pick together they are just bad... but i don't expect that seeing last year's trades.... low values everywhere... not even close to overpayments like you suggesting here...
 
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