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Watching NHL since ~ 2000.
Lifelong Tampa Bay Lightning supporter.

From 2019/2020 season i found my 2nd team:
Colorado Avalanche
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 7:24 am
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 7:00 am
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Sagecoll</b></div><div>Hayes, Dzingel, Simmonds, Johansson, Zucc, Duchene, Nyqvist, Stone....8 top 6 F’s dealt.

Hayes got a 1st +. Dzingel got 2 2nds + Duclair. Zucc got a trade with 2 conditional 1sts...and that’s in a super over saturated market

This year you basically have 3 options: Hall, Kreider, Toffoli.

In a normal marker like this, Nash gets a 1st + recent 2nd rounder + Spooner (who had roughly an equivalent season to Compher at the time). And he was 33 injury prone and hadn’t put up better than .5 pts/game in like 4 seasons.

Hanzal gets a 1st+ 2nd. Need I say more?

That’s what this market is. A recent Hart winner up for sale. It never happens. It’s going to go for a ton. Much more than Duchene got last year...</div></div>

Not bad analaysis but one thing you forget:
It's a bidding war for Hall:
:devils will take the best offer- If the best offer is 1st + Timmins - they say yes - it's really that simple - they just wait until very end of trade deadline... if no better offer comes up, they have to take it... i think GM's are not dumb in these days and they don't offer 5 picks + 2 propsects for an injury prone player who is a rental most likely... Conditional draft picks can be a lot of in quantity for first sight... but usually then the conditions are not met... so worse picks then 1st round gets transferred.. so end result might be ... bad picks + 1 good prospect for Hall = not insane like you think... So which one is better: timmins + guaranteed 1st or worse prospect + not guranteed picks, but can be as high as 3 1st rounder if any condition met.

It's up to New jersey, they either take the high risk/high reward offers(usually doesn't end well - like conditions like colorado wins the stanley cup or hall resigns- both will not met condition most likely to any team he gets traded unless it's agreed upon trade, but then there is no conditional pick for that requirement) or they take the sure like Timmins+ 1st round pick guaranteed value.
2 solid players instead of nothing, if they don't trade him. At this point i see under 1% chance that he resigns in new jersey...

I think the trade opener hit the nail with this. it's good for both teams... If Hall goes to UFA and colorado loses in like 2nd round... it still probably not the end of the world...
I mean i would keep Timmins, but if getting Hall improves winning the cup by 10%, i think u have to take the risk... Hall is a diff maker... and he will be hungry in colorado... like Charlie Coyle in Boston last year...

If Hall goes for more than the topic opener suggested, then probably AVS just not matching the best offer after it's getting ridicoulus. Yes there is chance that some bad GM overpay for a pure rental even... but i think Sakic is far from that type of GM... BriseBois same with Tampa... he only does trades ... when it's worth it in the long run for sure... small short losses are ok... but giving up ~ 3 first round picks for a pure rental = garbage GM just because Hall is "HART Winner" once... will he win it again... nope... thats past...
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 6:37 am
They don't trade Byram for Hall, you can bet your house on it... Look at the Mark Stone trade from last year. Not that much value, not even a 1st round pick...(there is but in "a prospect")
Often injured Hall = not that big value even if he is elite...
In my book:Stone &gt; Hall valuewise
So anyways, what was it 2nd round + good'ish prospect? So it's a 1st round + 2nd in a conversion... There is not even a Jost there(another goodish prospect)...
It's so simple, there will be a bidding war for Hall: Colorado won't bid with Byram...they bid with other assets... it's that simple, if there is some team who gives up for Hall insane value... then Avs out... not like... oh they give for Hall a good prospect like for example Edm bid with Broberg? Then AVS give up Byram in 10 minutes...anymore bidders? DEAL HALL for Byram... LUL...:laugh

So they might end up bidding with Kaut + 1st round pick for example... Or 1st round pick + conditional 1st round pick + conditional 2nd round pick (Avs make it to cup finals/ hall resigns).
BUT they will <strong>NEVER EVER INCLUDE BYRAM</strong>in the trade. It's really simple... If they ever include Byram in the trade it's for Hall + other players/assets since Byram value &gt; Hall by a large margin.

So anyways, Hall got traded for Larsson, when he already turned out to be a bust... Is Byram a bust for you right now? I'm not sure why Edmonton did it.... but they had their reasons for sure... that was the trade: Hall for Larsson you can look it up. Current season Larson = 0 points = great value right?
No it was not Hall for Hedman, it was Hall for Larsson. -28 last year - 0 points this year, that guy. Hall is not that much valueable... But even if he is... No GM that dumb to trade Byram for Hall... The value is really far off...
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 6:13 am
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 5:51 am
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BOLTLOVER1</b></div><div>Your wrong.. consecutive seasons with one team moron not career .. be better Forrest</div></div>

The only wrong thing about your rage in your thread is that we are still top16 :nhl team, so what the other 15 teams should do? Who are way worse then us...
I watched couple days ago powerrankings video, someone considers us still top13... that's not that bad right? you can't always be top3 team in the NHL every season... I agree we can't expect a huge playoffs run, but it's not that easy to fix, just 1 coaching change doesn't solve all our problems in 1 second...(for St. Louis last year it did though haha, good for them...)

But you have a point about Cooper:
Toronto had same issues: they fired Babcock
New Jersey: lost a lot of games:fired their coach

BUT does BriseBois has the BALLZ to do it, before season is over? I think he just doesn't do it as a "rookie" GM this early... So i expect no changes in december...
In january/feb we'll see... maybe more chance there if we keep losing a lot... but maybe we will start to win games like tmrw vs :panthers should be an easy win right?... i know vs bad teams we win only: but a win is a win right ?:huh :cheers

Dallas Cowboys in the NFL will make the playoffs with a losing record and they are not firing their coach for years, yet the results similar to tampa. Talented team and yet years after years = no playoffs success.
His name is Jason Garrett and almost every person would have fired him by now, he is still coaching the cowboys without any purpose/passion for years...
It's sucks, but Cooper has 0.640 win% since he is here in tampa, so i expect the same... he stays for a while... I know every fan dreams about the playoffs+cup... but until we are not out of playoffs race... i think our GM just doesn't make this drastical change midseason... he looks like a conservative GM(from the way he talks like an analytic guy and not emotional) , who only makes changes, when it's needed...

Do you think, that he thinks right now it's the time for a coaching change? I don't think so... Maybe the empty seats will convince him.. idk... im allin for a coaching change... the sooner the better...
Today i watched the post match interview with cooper, he is like lost there on the podium, he just doesn't have answers why we play like this all the time this season + vs capitals playoffs game6+7 + columbus series + a lot this year in reg season...
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 5:23 am
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 5:01 am
Here is some PRO SAP INSIDE LOOK ANALYSIS about :lightning (just kidding, it's my own take on the "downfall")
I expected this bad hockey from before the season started(still make the playoffs easy though because of bad atlantic division), my estimation was like 40 games needed... now it's looking like we need a lot more to play good hockey...

I copy paste from another topic:

Coaching problems. Our goal since september = defensive team.(said by organization members,coaches,gm,players... ) Result = top5 worst defensive team in the NHL.
They said today before Islanders game. It will be a 1-0 type of game in pre-interviews.
Result:1-5 loss...
They said same thing before Minnesota game... results 4-5 loss...

<strong>We just can't defend, other good teams defend in the middle of the ice. </strong>We defend on the outside and we go forward(to attack on the rush before we have the puck) instead going backwards. Watch a team like Arizona then watch Tampa. The difference = night and day.
Last year we didn't try to defend at all and every team just gave up the game vs tampa after a while = 62 wins super easy,could have been 70 wins... in playoffs they didn't give up the game. Result = 0-4 sweep...

<strong>So when you have a coach who never focused on defense and tries it for the first time in his life to copy other teams. This is the result.</strong> Copycat stuff not always working....
So yeah, it's easy to say just give up instead of 20 danger chances/ night let's give up 15 only... Results sometimes: giving up 23 scoring chances... After sometime it will get better i'm sure, but until then we look like a bad team... It's a learning process, but i'm just not sure Cooper can just be a "Cooper 2.0" ever...

It's like in the NFL:
Bill Bellichick is the best coach, what he does: = focus only on defense. So if you go to him in 2014 and say, let's focus on offense from 2015... the results would be: New England not winning any superbowls anymore...

It's hard to do a 360 degree turn and expect good results... Some night he(cooper) goes back to same routines vs bad teams. Results: 9-3 win, 7-1 win... but those are meaningless games, when game is close, we just lose, because we just don't defend well enough, like 10-15 other teams can... St. Louis,Islanders,Boston,Washington,Carolina, etc...

Yeah on top of that it doesn't help when we have:
<em>Schenn:AHL caliber defender, who gifts every 2nd game a free goal to opponent...
Rutta:Chicago wanted to get rid of him... i wonder why...
Shattenkirk:A buyout caliber defender(gets pushed around - takes big hits &amp; goes down = not strong enough = he is all about offense = not what we need)
Cernak:down year
Serg: still leaks in his defensive game
Coburn:regressed really hard this year due to age(buyout caliber defender)
</em>
And we have forwards who just doesn't wanna skate back and block shots/disrupt the opponent = TO DEFEND. They are there sometimes, but they are not trying to give the opponent trouble = big scoring chances coming when they are on the ice. Middle ice = nobody there from tampa every once in a while = easy goals for opponents
Here is a list:
<em>Stamkos = same like Matthews or Laine = non factor in D-zone in meaningful games
Kucherov = he never even tried to block shots,skates like a ghost 8/10 times in D-zone...
Tyler Johnson = same(size problems as well, too easy to ignore him for opponents= not what we need in our "new defensive" LUL system)
Gourde = same
</em>

Another problem:Goalie. Vasilevsky got his big contract = instantly goes for a down year = bad sv% and bad GAA stats... like 0.900 SV% and 3.0 goals/game allowed = 2 million $ caphit goalie stats...


There is also the penalties allowed/game issue which just unacceptable... Our goal is to take less penalties this year. Result = we take crazy amount of penalties...
We lost some players(Stralman,JT Miller) who were good defensively... Or good chemistry Girardi...

So the question is how we teach Kucherov or Stamkos to be Anthony Cirelli or Patrice Bergeron or Mark Stone... I think it's really hard once you past age of 24... but not impossible...

In a Nutshell most tampa players gifted offensively, but they are not gifted defensively with talent = you need to learn to defend. Until they don't learn it what to do when Matthew Barzal has the puck... they will just allow too many danger shooots = top 10 most goals allowed/game...

So if there are 20 players who need to focus on defense when opponent has the puck and only 10 really trying the results will be bad.

TLDR:We need time!!! or new players/ new coaches to fix our internal system, which is imprinted in every players brain = full attack mode / zero defensive responsiblity. You need balance to win cups and we don't have that... right now... but it can change... but it's probably not in 2019/2020 season...:cry
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 4:16 am
Thread: I want risto
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 4:04 am
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BOLTLOVER1</b></div><div>STAMKOS could be most over rated player in NHL. Other than a PP one timer he sucks .. now minus 12 on plus minus .. worst on team and is DOES count within team with adequate sample size .. I dare the shot stat folks on this page to defend Stamkos</div></div>

You are right, he can't defend, but we are stucked with him for years, so what we can do. Not worth to trash him 24/7. He is still staying for many years and at least he scores 70-80 points/ year. Better if he doesn't score only 40 and same defensively... -12 is not that bad... Risto had -40 last year LUL
Let's hope 1 day Cooper teaches him how to defend, and forgot about the pp. Yes scoring in pp is nice, but then u allow 2 easy goals. Net result 1-2...
What if you don't score on PP and not allow any goal. Net result = 0-0 = overtime = anything can happen.
Oh yeah , that's how the good teams play. They defend well. It's a process for us and it takes more than 1 year... we are only 30 games in with this new coaching style.... it failed miserably in every single game vs good teams... it will get better as time passes/ trades happening. It is what it is. We are a 0.550 team.... we expected 0.650+... well things not always work out as predicted...
Our goal is to limit the scoring chances = not working right now... Minnesota scored 5 goals dude... it's just no progress... we thought after sweden trip something clicked... NOPE... we just played vs the same old :sabres team who always plays bad hockey for decades... Yes a win is a win but our goal is to win the cup not to beat teams like Ottawa or Detroit... Even Syracuse can beat them... big deal... btw we lost vs ottawa so thats how bad we are right now...(in theory though we should win next 3 vs ottawa)
Anyways, good for you :islanders fans, their team is so well structured it's crazy how much a coach means in today's NHL...

Best thing we can do is wait and hope a trade is happening or a coaching change(doubtful). I don't think BriseBois has the BALLZ to fire Cooper...
Maybe one day Tyler Johnson(Yanni Gourde/Stammer) comes back to D-zone and tries to defend, not throwing his body around then injuring himself in the process... i mean at least we play fun hockey(1st in goal scoring in whole NHL)... so i keep watching, but i'm not expecting deep playoffs run anymore... GL to other teams!

My pick for this year stanley-cup winner: :stars
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 3:36 am
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hedman77</b></div><div>Are you saying Vatanen or Virtanen</div></div>

He means Vatanen,it's obv... but i'm not sure if he is good enough... i think we need better players... and a couple of defensive forwards...
I've seen Risto play couple of times, and i don't think he is the solution so i wouldn't want him atm... He would just not help too much, he is like Schenn 2.0, little better but is that enough? He costs a lot, so i think we should just forgot about Risto, last time i heard he said he is happy in Buffalo anyways couple months ago...
Pesce = untouchable, Doughty = we can't afford the caphit

Josh Manson is my pick right now from your list or Hamonic. But I'm not sure if the season can be saved with 1 defender... and should we go allin with our playstyle(= not playoff hockey). I don't think so...
Until Cooper can't teach Stamkos,Gourde,Johnson etc... to defend... no point of doing any other trades... we jus't can't allow 5 goals / every good team we face... it's not gonna end well...
4-5 more weeks and i'm starting to let this season go... i see you have hopes...good for you... but what team with this playstyle we can surely beat in playoffs.
I can name only 3:
:panthers
:mapleleafs
:rangers

And these teams can miss the playoffs, although i would be shocked if Toronto misses it, it's a more than 20% probability. So things are not good right now... Last year we had so much better chance, if it's not Columbus... but we were unlucky... they went allin... and they fought hard... and they swept us... the problem is: we are way worse than any point of last year for months now... so a first round exit is not a surprise anymore in the 2019/2020 playoffs...

My current pick for Stanley-cup champs 2019/2020 season:

:stars

(preseason it was VGK/Tampa not biased hahaaaa :tearsofjoy )
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 3:19 am
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 3:12 am
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Braah</b></div><div>Why do you guys suck this year</div></div>

Coaching problems. Our goal since september = defensive team.(said by organization members,coaches,gm,players... ) Result = top5 worst defensive team in the NHL.
They said today before Islanders game. It will be a 1-0 type of game in pre-interviews.
Result:1-5 loss...
We just can't defend, other teams defend in the middle of the ice. We defend on the outside and we go forward instead going backwards. Watch a team like Arizona then watch Tampa. The difference = night and day.
Last year we didn't try to defend at all and every team just gave up the game vs tampa after a while = 62 wins super easy could have been 70 wins... in playoffs they didn't give up the game. Result = 0-4 sweep...

So when you have a coach who never focused on defense and tries it for the first time in his life to copy other teams. This is the result. Copycat stuff not always working....
So yeah, it's easy to say just give up instead of 20 danger chances/ night let's give up 15 only... Results sometimes: giving up 23 scoring chances... After sometime it will get better i'm sure, but until then we look like a bad team... It's a learning process, but i'm just not sure Cooper can just be a "Cooper 2.0" ever...

It's like in the NFL:
Bill Bellichick is the best coach, what he does: = focus only on defense. So if you go to him and say, let's focus on offense from 2021... the results would be: New England not winning any superbowls anymore...

It's hard to do a 360 degree turn and expect good results... Some night he goes back to same routines vs bad teams. Results: 9-3 win, 7-1 win... but those are meaningless games, when game is close, we just lose, because we just don't defend well enough, like 10-15 other teams can... St. Louis,Islanders,Boston,Washington,Carolina, etc...

TLDR:We need time!!! or new players/ new coaches to fix our internal system, which is imprinted in every players brain = full attack mode / zero defensive responsiblity. You need balance to win cups and we don't have that... right now... but it can change... but it's probably not in 2019/2020 season...:cry
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 2:53 am
Forum: Armchair-GMTue at 2:48 am