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TDL if MTL are out EDM WPG

Created by: GMs
Initial Creation Date: Dec 4, 2019
Published: Dec 4, 2019 at 3:24 pm
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Trades
MTL
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [Reserve List]
  2. Samorukov, Dmitri
  3. 2020 1st round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Tatar, Tomas ($1,000,000 retained)
  2. Poehling, Ryan
MTL
  1. Vesalainen, Kristian
  2. 2020 1st round pick (WPG)
WPG
  1. Petry, Jeff ($2,750,000 retained)
  2. Thompson, Nate
Buyouts
  • Steve Mason: $1,366,667
Retained Salary Transactions
  • Tomas Tatar: $1,000,000 (20.83%)
  • Jeff Petry: $2,750,000 (50%)
  • Marco Scandella: $2,000,000 (50%)
  • Ilya Kovalchuk: $350,000 (50%)
Buried
  • Dale Weise: $1,275,000 ($2,350,000)
  • Keith Kinkaid: $675,000 ($1,750,000)
  • Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2020
MTL
EDM
WPG
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
ANA
SJS
WPG
MTL
FLA
MTL
CHI
2021
MTL
MTL
MTL
CHI
MTL
MTL
MTL
2022
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
MTL
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES BONUSESCAP SPACE
23$81,500,000$72,409,641$0$3,490,000$9,090,359
Left WingCenterRight Wing
MTL
Drouin, Jonathan
$5,500,000
LW
UFA - 4
MTL
Danault, Phillip
$3,083,333
C
UFA - 2
MTL
Gallagher, Brendan
$3,750,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Lehkonen, Artturi
$2,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
MTL
Domi, Max
$3,150,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
MTL
Suzuki, Nick
$863,333
C, RW
RFA - 3
MTL
Byron, Paul
$3,400,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
MTL
Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
$925,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
MTL
Armia, Joel
$2,600,000
RW
UFA - 2
MTL
Peca, Matthew
$1,300,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
MTL
Cousins, Nick
$1,000,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Weal, Jordan
$1,400,000
C, RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
MTL
Chiarot, Ben
$3,500,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 3
MTL
Weber, Shea
$7,857,143
RD
UFA - 7
MTL
Price, Carey
$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 7
MTL
Mete, Victor
$748,333
LD
RFA - 1
MTL
Juulsen, Noah
$863,333
RD
RFA - 1
MTL
Primeau, Cayden
$880,833
G
RFA - 3
MTL
Kulak, Brett
$1,850,000
LD
UFA - 3
MTL
Fleury, Cale
$771,666
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
MTL
Reilly, Mike
$1,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
MTL
Teasdale, Joël
$763,333
C
RFA - 3
MTL
Hudon, Charles
$800,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
MTL
Folin, Christian
$800,000
RD
UFA - 1

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Dec 4, 2019 at 3:32
#1
Boris Bagel
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Oils can keep Puljujärvi, but add Nurse
Dec 4, 2019 at 3:36
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Quoting: BorisBagel
Oils can keep Puljujärvi, but add Nurse


They won’t do it then
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Dec 4, 2019 at 4:56
#3
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Why is everyone thinking Montreal will trade Poehling for future picks? What sense does that make...

Offer that for just Tatar and we have a real conversation

Petry is worth alot more than that retained
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Dec 4, 2019 at 5:15
#4
Pass it to Lucic
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Offer that for just Tatar and we have a real conversation


no doubt. he has been a 20 goal scorer ever year that he has played(except his rookie year). I am not even sure MTL should be trading him at this point. 20 goal scorers aren't just sitting around these days
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Dec 4, 2019 at 5:17
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Quoting: Herms17
no doubt. he has been a 20 goal scorer ever year that he has played(except his rookie year). I am not even sure MTL should be trading him at this point. 20 goal scorers aren't just sitting around these days


Only way we trade him is if we aren't going to make the playoffs.
2 Years left and his value is truly at it's highest it will be.

But you're right. He makes up on of the better lines in hockey and his play is top notch right now.
Dec 4, 2019 at 6:15
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Quoting: HabsForEver


Offer that for just Tatar and we have a real conversation



Not gonna happen. Samorukov is worth a 1st and JP is probably worth a late 1st*. Tatar isn't worth 1st + 1st + 1st.

*In a re-draft Puljujarvi would be a mid-1st rounder. Only 12 guys from his draft have outscored him at the NHL level.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2016e.html
Dec 4, 2019 at 6:23
#7
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Quoting: CD282
Not gonna happen. Samorukov is worth a 1st and JP is probably worth a late 1st*. Tatar isn't worth 1st + 1st + 1st.

*In a re-draft Puljujarvi would be a mid-1st rounder. Only 12 guys from his draft have outscored him at the NHL level.
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/nhl2016e.html


Samorukov is worth a 1st? He has 3 points in 19 AHL games. Puljujarvi definitely isn't worth a 1st with that piss poor attitude.
Dec 4, 2019 at 11:51
#8
Boris Bagel
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Quoting: GMs
They won’t do it then


then donut brother calling
Dec 5, 2019 at 7:03
#9
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Quoting: HabsForEver
Samorukov is worth a 1st? He has 3 points in 19 AHL games.


Real GM's look at more than just the past few weeks. tears of joy


Quoting: HabsForEver
Puljujarvi definitely isn't worth a 1st with that piss poor attitude.


He requested a trade, what's wrong with that? We don't know why so I'm not going to speculate, but I'll leave you with this: if Akim Aliu had requested a trade 10 years ago you'd have accused him of having a "piss poor attitude" too. There's more to the Puljujarvi story than you know.
Dec 11, 2019 at 2:54
#10
Pass it to Lucic
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Quoting: CD282
Not gonna happen. Samorukov is worth a 1st and JP is probably worth a late 1st*. Tatar isn't worth 1st + 1st + 1st.

*In a re-draft Puljujarvi would be a mid-1st rounder. Only 12 guys from his draft have outscored him at the NHL level.


Well no wonder the Oilers haven't traded JP, they think they are getting a first for him? No chance, unless Chai pet is running a team that is trading the 1st for him.
What has Samorukov done to have value as a 1st round pick?
Dec 11, 2019 at 3:21
#11
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Montreal rejects first trade.

I'd say they reject 2nd trade too
Dec 11, 2019 at 3:34
#12
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Quoting: Herms17
Well no wonder the Oilers haven't traded JP, they think they are getting a first for him? No chance, unless Chai pet is running a team that is trading the 1st for him.
What has Samorukov done to have value as a 1st round pick?


In a re-draft Puljujarvi would be a mid-1st rounder. Only 12 guys from his draft have outscored him at the NHL level.

Samorukov was outstanding for Guelph after Merkley was traded, Holland got a lot of calls about him this past summer.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/top-10-nhl-prospects-playing-2019-memorial-cup/
Dec 11, 2019 at 6:09
#13
Pass it to Lucic
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Quoting: CD282
In a re-draft Puljujarvi would be a mid-1st rounder. Only 12 guys from his draft have outscored him at the NHL level.

Samorukov was outstanding for Guelph after Merkley was traded, Holland got a lot of calls about him this past summer.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/top-10-nhl-prospects-playing-2019-memorial-cup/


I'm not doubting people were/are interested in them, but still would be really really shocked if a team would give up a 1st straight up for either of them.
as for JP, like I said, I would shocked again if someone would give a first for a player that is barely an NHL player at this moment. he could barely stay in the line up in Edmonton. Edmonton had one of the weakest and thinnest wings last season....still do.

Lets put it this way, you have a better chance at getting a higher pick for Samorukov then you do JP at this point. everyone knows what Jp is, we have watched him for 2 seasons. Atleast Samorukov has the possibility of the unknown happening for him.
 
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