Hall trade based on Stone trade

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Created by: Tchuckycheese

Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 6, 2019

Published: Dec. 6, 2019

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I'm sure there's some variation of this out there buried under all the hundreds of other Hall trades, but thought I'd give my take.

I haven't seen one person agree on what a good Hall trade looks like on here so I'm going purely off the framework used in the Stone trade and selected a team based on this article : https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattkalman/2019/12/02/5-potential-trade-destinations-for-taylor-hall/#594bc119ba0a

I also have no idea what NJ actually needs in terms of return because they already seem good on paper but can't find success so I'm going to choose value instead of needs (i.e. maybe NJ needs a goalie, but i'm going to choose a forward prospect with more value).

Note: with the Stone trade, Ottawa did not receive a first round draft pick back, so that will be off the table with this trade despite the deep prospect pool in the upcoming draft.

It was hard to choose between Caufield and Poehling. I'd say Caufield is Habs top prospect but in reference to the Stone trade, I think Caufield is better than Brannstrom so I went with Poehling

NJ:
1. Star player
2. Guy who might play in the bottom 6 a few times a year

MTL:
1. Top (or second best) prospect
2. A guy who's played in the NHL for a while and slot into the lineup
3. A decent second round pick

Trades

MTL

Additional Details:

Hall re-signs for like 8x11.5 or something. I don't think he's worth over 10 but he'll get what he wants probably.

NJD

Cousins, Nick
Poehling, Ryan
2020 2nd round pick (CHI)

Buyouts

Steve Mason: $1,366,667

Buried

Karl Alzner: $3,550,000 ($4,625,000)
Dale Weise: $1,275,000 ($2,350,000)
Keith Kinkaid: $675,000 ($1,750,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2020
2021
2022

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
28	$81,500,000	$78,459,641	$0	$3,385,000	$3,040,359

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hall, Taylor $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW UFA - 1	Domi, Max $3,150,000$3,150,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Gallagher, Brendan $3,750,000$3,750,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Kotkaniemi, Jesperi $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) C UFA - 2	Tatar, Tomas $4,800,000$4,800,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
	Danault, Phillip $3,083,333$3,083,333 C UFA - 2	Armia, Joel $2,600,000$2,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 4	Weal, Jordan $1,400,000$1,400,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 2
Lehkonen, Artturi $2,400,000$2,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Thompson, Nate $1,000,000$1,000,000 C UFA - 1
Peca, Matthew $1,300,000$1,300,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Suzuki, Nick $863,333$863,333 ($425,000$425K) C UFA - 3
Hudon, Charles $800,000$800,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1	Teasdale, Joël $763,333$763,333 ($70,000$70K) RW, LW UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chiarot, Ben $1,750,000$1,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Weber, Shea $7,857,143$7,857,143 RD UFA - 7	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 7
Kulak, Brett $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 3	Petry, Jeff $5,500,000$5,500,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 2	Primeau, Cayden $880,833$880,833 ($257,500$258K) G RFA - 3
Reilly, Mike $1,500,000$1,500,000 LD UFA - 2	Folin, Christian $800,000$800,000 RD UFA - 1
Leskinen, Otto $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Fleury, Cale $771,666$771,666 ($132,500$132K) RD RFA - 2
Mete, Victor $748,333$748,333 LD/RD UFA - 1
Mermis, Dakota $700,000$700,000 LD/RD UFA - 1

Dec. 6, 2019 at 1:02 p.m.

Price_is_the_goat

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ottawa's market for stone became very limited as stone wanted to sign only with vegas. thats why vegas had majority of the power. for a hall trade, he might not want to resign in mtl. if he only wants to sign in mtl and mtl alone, than the trade can be talked about. as Nj doesnt want to resign Hall either

Dec. 6, 2019 at 1:05 p.m.

Tchuckycheese

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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat

wasn't aware he only wanted to sign with VGK, can't blame him thought. Especially coming from Ottawa.

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Dec. 6, 2019 at 1:09 p.m.

ThatGuy

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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat

That's not true..

Yes, options were limited on Stone. He only wanted to go to a cup contender.. Winnipeg, Calgary, Nashville, Dallas and Vegas were known to be in the mix.

Also, Hall was happy (and pissed when he got traded) in Edmonton. I am sure he'd be happy in Montreal (if they can show that they're going to be able to contend for years to come).

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Dec. 6, 2019 at 2:40 p.m.

Price_is_the_goat

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Quoting: Tchuckycheese

wasn't aware he only wanted to sign with VGK, can't blame him thought. Especially coming from Ottawa.

yeah in the latest 31 thoughts podcast, Elliote confirmed that

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Dec. 6, 2019 at 2:41 p.m.

Price_is_the_goat

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Quoting: ThatGuy

he wanted too, but was only willing to sign at term he wanted and vegas was the only team offering that

Dec. 9, 2019 at 10:27 a.m.

ThatGuy

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Quoting: Price_is_the_goat

he wanted too, but was only willing to sign at term he wanted and vegas was the only team offering that

Nope..

Vegas was the only team willing to trade quality (Brannstrom) over quantity. PD made it clear that he wanted quality since they got quantity for Dzingle, Duchene and Karlsson (which are all looking like good trades now)

Stone was also ready to sign to Winnipeg (he's from there). But Winnepeg wasn't willing to trade Vesalainen. It seems like they were offering Niku which was just not good enough.

Dec. 9, 2019 at 11:33 a.m.

HabsForEver

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I really hope Montreal doesn't make this trade. You don't win giving players that much money. You have to balance out the wealth if you want to win in today's NHL

Dec. 9, 2019 at 5:18 p.m.

Price_is_the_goat

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Quoting: ThatGuy

that isn't correct according to what ive head from elliote friedman in his last weeks 31 thoughts podcast.

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