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Created by: GenXHockey
Team: 2019-20 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 22, 2019
Published: Dec. 22, 2019
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Trade assumes that preds are out. Maybe a back door deal to send signing rights for Barrie post season for future considerations.

Leafs get the top pair rhd they need for the future and someone to play physical and drop the mitts.
Trades
NSH
  1. Ceci, Cody ($2,000,000 retained)
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Kapanen, Kasperi
  4. 2020 2nd round pick (TOR)
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2020
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2021
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2022
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$81,500,000$81,172,143$0$70,000$327,857
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 2
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$11,634,000$11,634,000
C
UFA - 5
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 5
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 6
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$10,893,000$10,893,000
RW
UFA - 6
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 4
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$675,000$675,000
C
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
C, RW
NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 8
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$675,000$675,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$694,444$694,444 (Performance Bonus$70,000$70K)
LW
UFA - 1
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$700,000$700,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

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Dec. 22, 2019 at 1:15 p.m.
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Where do I sign up!
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Dec. 22, 2019 at 1:21 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 22, 2019 at 1:26 p.m.
Spurgeon, Ellis and Manson.....three guys topping my list......

I would say in my books trading players go :

1) Barrie ( can be swaped for some defensive D of team with surplus of those )
2) Ceci ( in pack with some of better names from this list )
3) Kerfoot ( 3rd line C can be like 1,5M Eriksson-Ek for 25 Points per Season that Kerfoot will get playing in his new role as C )
4) Hyman ( you can land something good still this year cause next year as a rental he'll land less,, will walk away or demand 4M+ that TML dont have )
5) Timashov
6) and the last that will piss 95% of fan base again......Dermott ( Sandin & Liljegren coming for 3rd Pair with hopefully Holl as scratch if he wont demand more then 2 x 1,2M )

Packages of above 6 + both 2nds would prolly land one or two Top Ds, #3C and a backup......
Dec. 22, 2019 at 1:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Laudan
Spurgeon, Ellis and Manson.....three guys topping my list......

I would say in my books trading players go :

1) Barrie ( can be swaped for some defensive D of team with surplus of those )
2) Ceci ( in pack with some of better names from this list )
3) Kerfoot ( 3rd line C can be like 1,5M Eriksson-Ek for 25 Points per Season that Kerfoot will get playing in his new role as C )
4) Hyman ( you can land something good still this year cause next year as a rental he'll land less,, will walk away or demand 4M+ that TML dont have )
5) Timashov
6) and the last that will piss 95% of fan base again......Dermott ( Sandin & Liljegren coming for 3rd Pair with hopefully Holl as scratch if he wont demand more then 2 x 1,2M )

Packages of above 6 + both 2nds would prolly land one or two Top Ds, #3C and a backup......


Agree with everything but Hyman... I think he brings too much to the team beyond points. I also think he would make his contract fit. He is just one of those guys.

I think Dermott may become disposable down the line, not at the moment though. Unless you are able to resign muzzin. What I like about Dermott the most is his effectiveness in both sides.
Dec. 22, 2019 at 1:53 p.m.
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Quoting: Laudan
Spurgeon, Ellis and Manson.....three guys topping my list......

I would say in my books trading players go :

1) Barrie ( can be swaped for some defensive D of team with surplus of those )
2) Ceci ( in pack with some of better names from this list )
3) Kerfoot ( 3rd line C can be like 1,5M Eriksson-Ek for 25 Points per Season that Kerfoot will get playing in his new role as C )
4) Hyman ( you can land something good still this year cause next year as a rental he'll land less,, will walk away or demand 4M+ that TML dont have )
5) Timashov
6) and the last that will piss 95% of fan base again......Dermott ( Sandin & Liljegren coming for 3rd Pair with hopefully Holl as scratch if he wont demand more then 2 x 1,2M )

Packages of above 6 + both 2nds would prolly land one or two Top Ds, #3C and a backup......


Or, and this may seem bold to your dooms day machinations, but why not just take a deep breath enjoy the resurgence that has been happening under Keefe and see where we look after another month. You since, the team is currently 2nd in their division and are playing much better than earlier in the year. I know you desperately want the team to fail, for some unknown reason, but they just aren't failing anymore.

It never ceases to amaze me how many Leaf fans have one answer to everything that happens whether the team is going to good or bad, "Let's trade 3-6 pieces off the roster for other players because we are anxious.". It's silly, overreactive and often very counter productive.

With that said, I'd really like to see an upgrade over Ceci but if it doesn't come at a fair cost, then I'd just let one of Sandin or Liljegren get a chance to see if they can jump in. You really can't get much worse than Ceci.
Dec. 22, 2019 at 1:56 p.m.
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Agree with everything but Hyman... I think he brings too much to the team beyond points. I also think he would make his contract fit. He is just one of those guys.

I think Dermott may become disposable down the line, not at the moment though. Unless you are able to resign muzzin. What I like about Dermott the most is his effectiveness in both sides.


As i stated many times...i love them both, dont get me wrong....

I would multiply Hyman three times and put one on LW in every line, but......as i wrote in brackets, if TML will want to pay Mikheyev, Hyman will be on his way out....or it will be Mikheyev.

As for Dermott, kid is good, but as im preaching here all the time,the D to pull TML all the way to Finals will need better names in first two Pairs then Dermott and Holl.....
Dec. 22, 2019 at 1:57 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 22, 2019 at 2:05 p.m.
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im butthurting cause Laudan argumented me out few times.


Here he is again......

Honey, i told you already, im not reading your homer stupidities anymore, but as i said....you can follow me on twitter also, not just here.....
Dec. 22, 2019 at 2:16 p.m.
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Here he is again......

Honey, i told you already, im not reading your homer stupidities anymore, but as i said....you can follow me on twitter also, not just here.....


TO has the 2nd best record in the league since Keefe took over as coach. Now what? It's a fact they have been much better under Keefe but still you are on here calling people stupid because they don't want to trade everyone and burn it down. Just cheer for someone else if all you want is TO to fail. You're the worst Leaf fan.
Dec. 22, 2019 at 3:45 p.m.
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You're not getting Ellis without giving up Nylander or Marner +
Dec. 22, 2019 at 3:49 p.m.
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You're not getting Ellis without giving up Nylander or Marner +


Your opinion means less than zero.
Dec. 22, 2019 at 3:50 p.m.
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Your opinion means less than zero.


Yet you still gave me a response, so you hold some value of my opinion.
Dec. 23, 2019 at 1:20 a.m.
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Quoting: Laudan
As i stated many times...i love them both, dont get me wrong....

I would multiply Hyman three times and put one on LW in every line, but......as i wrote in brackets, if TML will want to pay Mikheyev, Hyman will be on his way out....or it will be Mikheyev.

As for Dermott, kid is good, but as im preaching here all the time,the D to pull TML all the way to Finals will need better names in first two Pairs then Dermott and Holl.....


Names don’t win cups...
Dec. 23, 2019 at 2:12 a.m.
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Names don’t win cups...


Damn are you ppl hanging on words....i really hoped you will understand what i ment.....
Dec. 23, 2019 at 4:08 a.m.
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Damn are you ppl hanging on words....i really hoped you will understand what i ment.....


I know what you meant. But big name Dmen from other teams don’t win cups. I like Ellis’ game that’s why I went after him. But Manson? Nah. Go after players that would fit in the system. These slower strictly defensive guys won’t cut it. Spurgeon could be good. I think montour would fit nicely too. But a couple of Dmen aren’t going to alter the universe. The whole team has to play defence.
Dec. 23, 2019 at 4:45 a.m.
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Quoting: Jamiepo
I know what you meant. But big name Dmen from other teams don’t win cups. I like Ellis’ game that’s why I went after him. But Manson? Nah. Go after players that would fit in the system. These slower strictly defensive guys won’t cut it. Spurgeon could be good. I think montour would fit nicely too. But a couple of Dmen aren’t going to alter the universe. The whole team has to play defence.


The thing is you are missing 4M that went to Matthews and Marner and they shouldnt, so your acquired Ds need to be under 5M AAV. In the thread following this one you have Rielly - Ellis and Dermott - Holl. I think with that you are going the same path as TML are walking for last 30 years, rellying McCabe - Kaberle are just enough to bring the Parade into town. History is showing its not working.

I think two "on the verge of elite" Ds are still needed to make things done, ofc with Muzzin re-signed ( i know most of you ppl dont like him, claiming hes to slow, but hes just making everyone that plays with him looking good, and while working double shifts on ice hes literally at 60 Games played, not 35, so no wonder he looks dieing already at his age ), and if Muzzin isnt signed, that means 3 Ds of such to land. Not many will hit UFA, those few that might are either to expensive ( Pietrangelo, Barrie ) or we have them already in No.5 quality Ds like Dermott, Holl or Ceci.

So thats why im going for Manson, DeHaan, Murphy and Hamonic ( in case CGY would swap him for Barrie ),, they are 5-5,5M most and you can fit three of those under the capto help Rielly ( ofc targeting the potential sellers )

About whole Team needs to play D i cant agree more with you....even The Queen of Desert should....finally.....the thing that Babcock already told him but he rather reacted as spoiled Star.....
 
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