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Connor Brown

Created by: Billy739
Team: 2019-20 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 23, 2019
Published: Dec. 23, 2019
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
OTT
  1. Kinkaid, Keith ($750,000 retained)
  2. 2020 2nd round pick (MTL)
  3. 2020 4th round pick (WPG)
Additional Details:
-Kinkaid @ 1m cap
-if Brown makes ECF with MTL the 2nd becomes a 1st
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3.
PHI
  1. 2020 4th round pick (ANA)
Additional Details:
using the Deslauriers pick to acquire a depth shot blocker who likes to hit
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23$81,500,000$73,796,308$0$3,315,000$7,703,692
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Dec. 23, 2019 at 9:56 p.m.
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Where would Connor fit? Don't see him cracking the top 9 when Montreal is fully healthy. He's definitely not worth that package regardless.
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Dec. 23, 2019 at 10:14 p.m.
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Sorry. That’s a no from Columbus. We have way too many LHD and have no need for Kulak. Send him else where to dump his contract.
Dec. 23, 2019 at 10:15 p.m.
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no men... never change a 1rst for the next year amd suzuki on a 4... its very bad. the player show that he can play in all situation against ( not everyone but...) a lot of player. thats no with to put him in a position that hewill play 10-11 minute max per game... other trades are note bad but useless if we sign romanov.
Dec. 25, 2019 at 3:27 p.m.
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Edited Dec. 25, 2019 at 3:32 p.m.
Quoting: HabsForEver
Where would Connor fit? Don't see him cracking the top 9 when Montreal is fully healthy. He's definitely not worth that package regardless.


Brown Average's 20+ minutes a game playing well in all 3 Zone's and is a more skilled version of Lehkonen for TML and OTT
he's a clear upgrade on Byron who is declining and after 1 more bad start to a season will be gone as quick as Weise was despite Habs fans loving him

he lead OTT in offense the first 20 games then retired to a defensive role
Brown's a battler who would create room for Domi the way Shaw did

The only thing MTL is giving up with Value is a late 2nd round pick as in this Scenario we're a playoff team making the pick 47th-61st

if Browns as bad as you all pretend then there is no chance they convert on the 1st
Dec. 25, 2019 at 3:31 p.m.
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Quoting: Mtlstanleyin2072
no men... never change a 1rst for the next year amd suzuki on a 4... its very bad. the player show that he can play in all situation against ( not everyone but...) a lot of player. thats no with to put him in a position that hewill play 10-11 minute max per game... other trades are note bad but useless if we sign romanov.


Suzuki on 4 has scored more then half his offense
when placed in top 6 he goes pointless for 6-10 games
placing him higher based on fans ego is gonna kill his development .
Besides Suzuki himself prefers playing with Thompson he's said this many times because otherwise he's just being cycled with new partners back and forth from Center to Wing .

Suzuki from 4th averaged 14 minute sin Reality because MTL is a 4 line team
this 10-11 minutes non sense is saying you've not watched a game since Claude Julien was hired .

This is the greatest collection of all things Habs related including Line Combinations , Match ups and Minutes played in what position for how long since 2001 .

Educate yourself on our system
http://www.cs.unb.ca/~mwf/habs/
Dec. 25, 2019 at 3:35 p.m.
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Brown Average's 20+ minutes a game playing well in all 3 Zone's and is a more skilled version of Lehkonen for TML and OTT
he's a clear upgrade on Byron who is declining and after 1 more bad start to a season will be gone as quick as Weise was despite Habs fans loving him

he lead OTT in offense the first 20 games then retired to a defensive role
Brown's a battler who would create room for Domi the way Shaw did

The only thing MTL is giving up with Value is a late 2nd round pick as in this Scenario we're a playoff team making the pick 47th-61st

if Browns as bad as you all pretend then there is no chance they convert on the 1st


He averages over 20 minutes a game because Ottawa has nobody. He's forced to play a position and excels because of how much ice team he is given. Look at Parenteau when he played on that ****ty leafs squad. Where would you play him? I don't see a fit for him.
Dec. 26, 2019 at 10:30 a.m.
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He averages over 20 minutes a game because Ottawa has nobody. He's forced to play a position and excels because of how much ice team he is given. Look at Parenteau when he played on that ****ty leafs squad. Where would you play him? I don't see a fit for him.


Larkin does the same thing in DET
would you argue it makes him without Value ?

i just cannot agree with your POV because i cannot think of a single instance where a player outside the D position Average's over 20 minutes regularly without being a skilled player.Parenteau in your example played a season average 16 minutes no where near the 20 . Parenteau also was the top Shootout player and adapted awesomely to 3v3 OT play making him an asset for MTL and TML but not like Brown who plays top 6 , top PP ,top PK and wherever else they need him .

i'm not saying Browns a superstar but he's the player we need if Domi's gonna do a damn thing offensively because he fills the same role as Shaw did. (the only player to ever play beside Domi and make him a 70+ point player )

you wont find many players like Brown with his Size and Speed he fits our system to boot .
maybe we pay less for him like offering them Byron who's become injury prone and is on a 2 year decline .
he's a OTT native who is a veteran leader who can help their young players develop like he did ours .

Byron has lost his LW role just like Weise did his last year
its not long before they'll move him for a proper RW .
before Byron there was Weise , before Weise there was Prust, before Prust there was Begin
We always bring in a guy from out west a team has given up on and re-establish him
Dec. 26, 2019 at 3:55 p.m.
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Larkin does the same thing in DET
would you argue it makes him without Value ?

i just cannot agree with your POV because i cannot think of a single instance where a player outside the D position Average's over 20 minutes regularly without being a skilled player.Parenteau in your example played a season average 16 minutes no where near the 20 . Parenteau also was the top Shootout player and adapted awesomely to 3v3 OT play making him an asset for MTL and TML but not like Brown who plays top 6 , top PP ,top PK and wherever else they need him .

i'm not saying Browns a superstar but he's the player we need if Domi's gonna do a damn thing offensively because he fills the same role as Shaw did. (the only player to ever play beside Domi and make him a 70+ point player )

you wont find many players like Brown with his Size and Speed he fits our system to boot .
maybe we pay less for him like offering them Byron who's become injury prone and is on a 2 year decline .
he's a OTT native who is a veteran leader who can help their young players develop like he did ours .

Byron has lost his LW role just like Weise did his last year
its not long before they'll move him for a proper RW .
before Byron there was Weise , before Weise there was Prust, before Prust there was Begin
We always bring in a guy from out west a team has given up on and re-establish him


Please don't compare Larkin and Brown. They don't compare anywhere and in any circumstance.
Dec. 27, 2019 at 6:38 a.m.
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Edited Dec. 27, 2019 at 6:47 a.m.
Quoting: HabsForEver
Please don't compare Larkin and Brown. They don't compare anywhere and in any circumstance.


when less then 9 Forwards in the entire NHL are logging as many minutes as he is there is value .
i'm not trying to make him a All Star to wrap my head around him having value , that's you .

i think you'd see value in a Checking Forward who plays 20+ minutes and suits our system if nothing else .
Especially given what we've done with forwards people perceived as lesser players by establishing their value as every top 6 forward .
we got players there inspite of people saying they'd never make it there or make it back in some cases .

If you look at Brown and dont see the potential for Growth in a system that is built on a balance of Size and Speed just like he is
then i'm not sure MTL Canadiens are the team for you as that's how we got Domi , Petry , Tatar, Armia and many others since Molsons came back as Owner .

The day of deals and big signings died with Mr Gillette left and along with him the Best for the Job Philosophy he implemented .
Since then Price has been the only top 5 pick expected to be a Star that carries our team that actually did .
The rest of the time we're taking players with solid potential and polishing it until its a Diamond .

Since i cannot point out Context without people getting triggered ill just share source based facts .
Here's a source showing Brown as 10th best forward in the league when it comes to Average Time On ice

People say Danault isnt a worthy top 10 faceoff Center
Despite a 2 years staying in their top 10 ranks and a consistent increase in consistency they still call it a fluke despite all around growth by Danault .(despite the setback from taking the League's hardest slapshot to the face last year )

If i thought MTL was capable of getting a big star as a UFA and keeping him i'd make the trade
but that's not gonna happen because no star will chose to play for us because they wont choose to put their kids and wife through our fans non sense .
Perron when declining MTL cited this as the reason he was glad to end up in ANA instead of MTL (who was trying to acquire him in hopes of a return to ECF right away)

Bringing in a Brown is a better option then bringing in no one .
No Players i can think of have more potential for upside with low cost buy rate as Brown .
One might argue Galchenyuk but that's based purely on a goal scoring ability he doesnt have anymore . (0/4 twenty goals seasons since he scored 30 )
With a Brown we get a good hard working player to anchor the Domi line like Lehkonen has .


http://www.espn.com/nhl/statistics/player/_/stat/timeonice/league/east/qualified/false/position/forwards
 
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